D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-09-15 Thread Nathaniel Graham
ngraham abandoned this revision. REPOSITORY R108 KWin REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 To: ngraham, #vdg, #kwin, GB_2, zzag Cc: zzag, GB_2, kwin, kde-doc-english, LeGast00n, The-Feren-OS-Dev, sbergeron, jraleigh, gennad, fbampaloukas, mkulinski, ragreen, jackyalcine, Pitel

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-09-15 Thread Björn Feber
GB_2 added a comment. D23978 REPOSITORY R108 KWin REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 To: ngraham, #vdg, #kwin, GB_2, zzag Cc: zzag, GB_2, kwin, kde-doc-english, LeGast00n, The-Feren-OS-Dev, sbergeron, jraleigh, gennad, fbampaloukas, m

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-09-12 Thread Vlad Zahorodnii
zzag added a comment. In D22894#530205 , @GB_2 wrote: > If we really don't want to change the name, then at least still drop the KCM KAboutData "Configure" word and make the desktop file description consistent. Yeah, it appears like "Con

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-09-12 Thread Björn Feber
GB_2 added a comment. If we really don't want to change the name, then at least still drop the KCM KAboutData "Configure" word and make the desktop file description consistent. REPOSITORY R108 KWin REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 To: ngraham, #vdg, #kwin, GB_2, zzag C

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-26 Thread Vlad Zagorodniy
zzag requested changes to this revision. zzag added a comment. This revision now requires changes to proceed. It should stay "Desktop Effects." > Effects It's too ambiguous. REPOSITORY R108 KWin REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 To: ngraham, #vdg, #kwin, GB_2,

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-10 Thread Nathaniel Graham
ngraham added a comment. In D22894#509781 , @GB_2 wrote: > What about just "Effects"? I'd be okay with that. REPOSITORY R108 KWin BRANCH desktop-to-graphical (branched from master) REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D2289

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-10 Thread Björn Feber
GB_2 added a comment. What about just "Effects"? REPOSITORY R108 KWin BRANCH desktop-to-graphical (branched from master) REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 To: ngraham, #vdg, #kwin, GB_2 Cc: zzag, GB_2, kwin, kde-doc-english, LeGast00n, sbergeron, jraleigh, gennad, fb

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-05 Thread Vlad Zagorodniy
zzag added a comment. I just don't want to repeat the history. KDE was rebranded in 2008-2009 and people (including me) still refer to KDE Plasma as "KDE." REPOSITORY R108 KWin BRANCH desktop-to-graphical (branched from master) REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 To: n

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-05 Thread Vlad Zagorodniy
zzag added a comment. > My claim is that when your typical user sees the word "desktop", they don't think of the generic concept of the desktop metaphor (which is a developer concept). Using different terminology among users and developers is wrong. Sometimes one just has to learn new w

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-04 Thread Nathaniel Graham
ngraham added a comment. Ah. My claim is that when your typical user sees the word "desktop", they don't think of the generic concept of the desktop metaphor (which is a developer concept). They think of the specific thing with the wallpaper where they put their files and folders. With

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-04 Thread Vlad Zagorodniy
zzag added a comment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_metaphor REPOSITORY R108 KWin BRANCH desktop-to-graphical (branched from master) REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 To: ngraham, #vdg, #kwin, GB_2 Cc: zzag, GB_2, kwin, kde-doc-english, LeGast00n, sbergeron, j

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-04 Thread Nathaniel Graham
ngraham added a comment. In D22894#506688 , @zzag wrote: > > - Inappropriate use of the word "Desktop." In the typical user's understanding, the desktop is the thing with a wallpaper and icons on it. > > "Desktop" is a metaphor. "Desktop back

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-04 Thread Vlad Zagorodniy
zzag added a comment. > - Inappropriate use of the word "Desktop." In the typical user's understanding, the desktop is the thing with a wallpaper and icons on it. "Desktop" is a metaphor. "Desktop background" is the proper way to address such clients. > - Inconsistent terminology: m

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-04 Thread Nathaniel Graham
ngraham added a comment. In general I don't think it's a valid argument that you should leave something alone just because people are used to it. If it's already good, then that's the reason not to change it. But if people have gotten used to something bad, then changing it is definitely the

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-04 Thread Vlad Zagorodniy
zzag added a comment. > Because KWin maintainers have indicated in D14561 Small correction: I'm not KWin maintainers. REPOSITORY R108 KWin BRANCH desktop-to-graphical (branched from master) REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 T

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-04 Thread Vlad Zagorodniy
zzag added a comment. -1, sorry. I don't see any reason to change the name. As I said previously, people started using "desktop effects" long time ago. Bug reports, news articles, forum posts and so on use "desktop effects." Deviating from this terminology perhaps isn't a good idea.

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-02 Thread Nathaniel Graham
ngraham added a comment. Yep. REPOSITORY R108 KWin BRANCH desktop-to-graphical (branched from master) REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 To: ngraham, #vdg, #kwin, GB_2 Cc: GB_2, kwin, kde-doc-english, LeGast00n, fmonteiro, sbergeron, jraleigh, gennad, fbampaloukas, mk

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-02 Thread Björn Feber
GB_2 accepted this revision. GB_2 added a comment. This revision is now accepted and ready to land. Let's wait for KWin devs. REPOSITORY R108 KWin BRANCH desktop-to-graphical (branched from master) REVISION DETAIL https://phabricator.kde.org/D22894 To: ngraham, #vdg, #kwin, GB_2 Cc: G

D22894: Rename "Desktop Effects" to "Graphical Effects"

2019-08-02 Thread Nathaniel Graham
ngraham created this revision. ngraham added reviewers: VDG, KWin. Herald added projects: KWin, Documentation. Herald added subscribers: kde-doc-english, kwin. ngraham requested review of this revision. REVISION SUMMARY KWin's Desktop Effects suffer from the following UI issues: - Inappropr