Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread Bond
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:14 AM, John Mahoney jmaho...@waav.com wrote: Bond I think you are a prime example of someone who walks the line between asking legit questions and asking dubious questions. I think your intentions are good and you really are trying to learn, but you ask far too many

Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread Venkatram Tummala
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Bond jamesbond.2...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:14 AM, John Mahoney jmaho...@waav.com wrote: Bond I think you are a prime example of someone who walks the line between asking legit questions and asking dubious questions. I think your

Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread John Mahoney
On Saturday, November 20, 2010, Bond jamesbond.2...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:14 AM, John Mahoney jmaho...@waav.com wrote: Bond I think you are a prime example of someone who walks the line between asking legit questions and asking dubious questions.  I think your intentions

Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread Bond
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:23 PM, John Mahoney jmaho...@waav.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:08 PM, John Mahoney jmaho...@waav.com wrote: Just remember, most people here are doing this for free, so be polite and make sure your not asking obvious questions. Ok  I personally feel your

Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread John Mahoney
On Saturday, November 20, 2010, Venkatram Tummala venkatram...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Bond jamesbond.2...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:14 AM, John Mahoney jmaho...@waav.com wrote: Bond I think you are a prime example of someone who walks the line

Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Alison Chaiken alchai...@gmail.com wrote: Anuz, I think your document is right on-target.    I would just add, Don't ask for help with basic C programming.    Yes, there are lots of idioms

Re: [OOT] Core Duo: closer as Pentium M or Pentium 4 architecture

2010-11-20 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
Hi... On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 05:06, Jigar Savla jigar.sa...@gatech.edu wrote: After Pentium 4 architecture failed miserably. Intel went back to P6 architecture. All the current architectures are improved versions of P6 architectures. Jigar Savla That means, Core Duo is using Yonah

Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 00:04, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar chambilketha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Lately there have been a lot of discussions on community guidelines, and general do and don't of kernel newbies mailing list. So I thought let me compile a document, which can be used as a general

Re: A question regarding GIT

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Blizek
Hi! The problem seems more like you are trying to git clone a http:// address, i am not sure, but you may need to find a git address for the same. Git can clone from http:// and rsync:// as well. -Michi -- programing a layer 3+4 network protocol for mesh networks see

Re: A question regarding GIT

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Blizek
Hi! On 22:33 Thu 18 Nov , Rahul Ramasubramanian wrote: Hi , I had a query regarding git usage i am trying to clone a specific branch from a repo. I am following the instructions from this site http://www.linux-arm.org/LinuxKernel/LinuxAndroidPlatform( patching the kernel subsection)

Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Blizek
Hi! On 02:43 Sat 20 Nov , Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... admittedly, i haven't even got around to reading the proposed doc yet, but what i think would be useful is a very short, very non-negotiable list of rules for posting. detailed docs are fine but what would be handy is a brief list

Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Michael Blizek mic...@michaelblizek.twilightparadox.com wrote: Hi! On 02:43 Sat 20 Nov , Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... admittedly, i haven't even got around to reading the proposed doc yet, but what i think would be useful is a very short, very

[OOT - Might be offensive] Re: Re: guidelines, faqs and dos and don'ts document

2010-11-20 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
Hi.. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 18:41, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar chambilketha...@gmail.com wrote: While this list has been easy going and fun for most of the time. For last couple of months, I am observing the repetition  of  basic questions, a lot of argument and redirections and going off-topic

how kernel linked lists work

2010-11-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
i wrote a tutorial on this once but i thought i'd add it to my LKD3 page since how kernel linked lists work is a point of common confusion among newbies. http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Updates_to_LKD3#Kernel_Data_Structures rday --

Re: how kernel linked lists work

2010-11-20 Thread Andrew Case
another good resource on it, although its from 2005 so some of the commented code may be outdated: http://isis.poly.edu/kulesh/stuff/src/klist/ On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.cawrote: i wrote a tutorial on this once but i thought i'd add it to my LKD3

Re: how kernel linked lists work

2010-11-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010, Andrew Case wrote: another good resource on it, although its from 2005 so some of the commented code may be outdated: http://isis.poly.edu/kulesh/stuff/src/klist/ yes, it's outdated - it doesn't point out that the list_entry() macro is now defined in terms of

Re: [OOT] Core Duo: closer as Pentium M or Pentium 4 architecture

2010-11-20 Thread Jigar Savla
Just in case: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Core_Duo_(Yonah) Jigar Savla Graduate Student, Electrical and Computer Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Ph: +1- 404 406 2766 http://jigarsavla.com http://www.jigarsavla.com/ | jigar.sa...@gatech.edu jigar.sa...@gatech.edu On Sat,

Re: [OOT] Core Duo: closer as Pentium M or Pentium 4 architecture

2010-11-20 Thread Jigar Savla
Yes, I believe so. Jigar Savla Graduate Student, Electrical and Computer Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Ph: +1- 404 406 2766 http://jigarsavla.com http://www.jigarsavla.com/ | jigar.sa...@gatech.edu jigar.sa...@gatech.edu On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Mulyadi Santosa

Re: [OOT] Core Duo: closer as Pentium M or Pentium 4 architecture

2010-11-20 Thread Jigar Savla
Andev, Pentium 4 was a failure on many fronts. Complexity, Power, Verification ( remember the FPU mistake that cost Intel $500 million??), heat. The failure was the only reason they moved back to the earlier generation architechture insert P6 here, as it was a reliable beast capable of scaling

Re: [OOT] Core Duo: closer as Pentium M or Pentium 4 architecture

2010-11-20 Thread Mulyadi Santosa
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 23:34, Jigar Savla jigar.sa...@gatech.edu wrote: Just in case: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Core_Duo_(Yonah) Thanks, I read that too. So now I concluded that Core Duo is closer as Pentium M. Recompiling my kernel to Pentium M...so far so good (although there's no

Re: how kernel linked lists work

2010-11-20 Thread John Mahoney
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2010, Andrew Case wrote: another good resource on it, although its from 2005 so some of the commented code may be outdated: http://isis.poly.edu/kulesh/stuff/src/klist/  yes, it's outdated - it

crap, i think LKD3 explains linked list head nodes incorrectly ...

2010-11-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
... and this might be embarrasing for me since i might have been the one who dashed off the explanation for it to the author. if you have a copy of LKD3, on p. 90, a linked list head node is described as a special pointer that refers to your linked list, without being a list node itself.

Re: crap, i think LKD3 explains linked list head nodes incorrectly ...

2010-11-20 Thread Dave Hylands
Hi Robert, On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: ...snip...  that also suggests that a passage on p. 91 of LKD3 is inaccurate, where it claims that because the lists are circular, you can generally pass any element for head.  but that can't be right,

Re: crap, i think LKD3 explains linked list head nodes incorrectly ...

2010-11-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010, Dave Hylands wrote: Hi Robert, On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: ...snip...  that also suggests that a passage on p. 91 of LKD3 is inaccurate, where it claims that because the lists are circular, you can generally pass

and there's a routine for *sorting* a kernel linked list as well

2010-11-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
what started off as just some nonchalant poking around in kernel data structures has become moderately educational. i had no idea that there is support for *sorting* the nodes of a kernel LL in linux/list_sort.h: void list_sort(void *priv, struct list_head *head, int

Re: crap, i think LKD3 explains linked list head nodes incorrectly ...

2010-11-20 Thread Robert P. J. Day
ah, a perfect example of how a linked list head node must *not* be treated as a normal node, in net/sctp/associola.c: while (1) { /* Skip the head. */ if (pos-next == head) pos = head-next; else

Re: crap, i think LKD3 explains linked list head nodes incorrectly ...

2010-11-20 Thread Dave Hylands
Hi Robert, On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: On Sat, 20 Nov 2010, Dave Hylands wrote: ...snip... And this is why routines like list_is_last need to be passed in the node to test along with the head of the list.  huh ... i never knew that test