On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Bond <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:14 AM, John Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Bond I think you are a prime example of someone who walks the line
> > between asking legit questions and asking dubious questions.  I think
> > your intentions are good and you really are trying to learn, but you
> > ask far too many questions far too quickly.   Also, I think you should
> I read that book of device drivers which is ............and read it
> for at least many years
> and not once many many times.I could not write a single driver out of it.
> Which I recently wrote by writing some other "recent docs" and then
> with the understanding developed from them.
> If there is some thing like my previous question for a structure in
> super IO chips such things I do not see commonly being used.
> I looked at a similar code in vlc media player and found that such a
> structure was not known to many many experienced kernel level
> programmers and
> they found it difficult to understand.
>
I think Robert JUST mentioned something about thread hijacking in the
previous mail.  Sorry to say this guys -  i don't see how the docs can help
people understand the rules. Even this thread about guidelines is not being
followed according to the guidelines. Recursion???

> If some one is asking a question via a typedef in a function pointer
> or structure initialization which he never found any where else on
> this planet other than the kernel then what wrong is he doing.That
> book does not covers such things.See it is very good to give lecture
> to any one who asked question to do blah blah but to understand his
> problem and give a solution to some thing specific is not an easy
> thing.
> Recent example was my character device question where the driver was
> dropping characters out of it. I could not understand the reason
> behind it some one even blocked me from his mails and one guy actually
> solved that problem.
> When you are learning some thing then asking questions even the
> silliest ones is not wrong.
> At least some one who is asking is attempting his level best( upon his
> understanding) to understand irrespective of the fact that community
> does not appreciates that.
> I did read K R after getting busted here and I do not see any one else
> other than me asking such C questions and to the best of my knowledge
> I did not found any thing the people who suggest to read K R
> themselves do not read that book but will give suggestion to read.
> KR was written for C in very old times to help people beginning with
> programming or what ever reason it does not cover often the way Data
> structures are initialized in kernel specific areas.Or some other
> relevant stuff.My point is rather than giving some one such a lecture
> it will be better to just make a doc with relevant structs,typedefs
> and such other tricks which are used in kernel many a times which
> might not be commonly found on the wiki and give a link to that may be
> if such a thing is present some one whose questions appear silly would
> before asking read that doc and will get his answers from there.

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