[Kicad-developers] Experiments and considerations for more layer

2013-09-02 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
At last I tried to broke the 32 layer barrier in pcbnew. Needed the assembly and courtyard on both sides, so the ECO are not enough. Also they need to be flippable, too. Result: succesful, learnt things that could be useful later. First, the huge LAYER_NUM/LAYER_MSK work I done previously was in

Re: [Kicad-developers] New superior BOM generator: bom_csv_grouped_by_value.py

2013-09-02 Thread Brian Sidebotham
On 1 September 2013 19:30, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote: To maintain referential integrity in the netlist XML file, in the face of ALIASES, I had to export the alias names as elements of the libparts that used them. This was done in commit 4306, testing. If you try and use this

Re: [Kicad-developers] Experiments and considerations for more layer

2013-09-02 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 10:30:47AM +0100, Brian Sidebotham wrote: I could really do with more layers too. Although when I say *more* layers, I mean that I could really do with dedicated assembly and courtyard layers. Exactly what I have done... probably for your same reasons, too. The

[Kicad-developers] About the new module name/module file name discussion

2013-09-02 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
A thing happened that gave me insight on the problems of having the file name equal to the name inside the file (and what happens when these mismatch). Real world current usage: truetype/opentype fonts. You name the file however you want but the internal name wins; the systems scans all the fonts

Re: [Kicad-developers] About the new module name/module file name discussion

2013-09-02 Thread Thiadmer Riemersma
Hello Lorenzo, I think that the problem you described is unrelated to the filename system. It already exists in the legacy libraries. It is why the order of the libraries is sometimes important (if two libraries contain a module with the same name, CvPcb and pcbnew pick the one from the topmost

Re: [Kicad-developers] Experiments and considerations for more layer

2013-09-02 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
On Mon, 9/2/13, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] Experiments and considerations for more layer To: Kicad Developers kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Date: Monday, September 2, 2013, 5:30 PM On

Re: [Kicad-developers] Experiments and considerations for more layer

2013-09-02 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 03:45:23AM -0700, Cirilo Bernardo wrote: Using IDF also gives us another method of specifying the board outline, but to be honest the specification has severe defects; for example, arcs are not correctly constrained so for any arc specified in IDF there are 4 different

Re: [Kicad-developers] Experiments and considerations for more layer

2013-09-02 Thread Brian Sidebotham
On 2 September 2013 10:39, Lorenzo Marcantonio l.marcanto...@logossrl.comwrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 10:30:47AM +0100, Brian Sidebotham wrote: I could really do with more layers too. Although when I say *more* layers, I mean that I could really do with dedicated assembly and courtyard

Re: [Kicad-developers] Experiments and considerations for more layer

2013-09-02 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 12:13:07PM +0100, Brian Sidebotham wrote: Actually, I think I want to change my answer a bit. Because as I hinted, I don't need more layers, I need better layer versatility. I want to be able to rename layers (Already achievable!), but I also want to be able to Well...

Re: [Kicad-developers] boost_root driven by https

2013-09-02 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On Sep 2, 2013 4:37 AM, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 September 2013 14:27, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Executable Read about relocations. Brian, I think your idea of looking at the PE headers is good.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Python-a-mingw-us Windows Debug Scripting Builds

2013-09-02 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On Sep 2, 2013 4:35 AM, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 September 2013 02:37, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote: On Aug 31, 2013 5:35 PM, Brian Sidebotham brian.sidebot...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 August 2013 21:39, Dick Hollenbeck d...@softplc.com wrote: On

Re: [Kicad-developers] Experiments and considerations for more layer

2013-09-02 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 08:55:31PM -0600, Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote: that's another 26 (or more) layers. Still think 64 will be enough? I said it was a mid-term solution. BTW, long long is part of the C standard and excluded from the C++ standard. Good luck with Windows (it doesn't