Re: [Kicad-developers] Python&QA vs OSX ...

2014-02-04 Thread Miguel Angel
Wow, good good Marco!, Having our own python build looks interesting to overcome the OSX version problems with python. The bad point of having our own python is that we stop from having the python community libraries (I guess) probably it's a matter of including easy_python or pip in the bu

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Miguel Angel
Well, two interesting things here: 1) the git-bzr-ng looks great, we can add some documentation to the website based on what inkscape provides. This should make people more used to git happier, and we have an easy migration path if something goes wrong with launchpad or bzr (I don't fores

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
- Original Message - > From: Wayne Stambaugh > To: kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision > > On 2/4/2014 9:57 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: >> On 02/04/2014 12:57 PM, Brian Si

[Kicad-developers] Patch: In eeschema: use unused hotkey 'Backspace' to be equivalent to 'Delete'

2014-02-04 Thread Henner Zeller
Hi, My notebook has a keyboard that doesn't have a 'Delete' key, only 'Backspace'. This makes deleting objects in eeschema quite cumbersome as this always requires to use the right-mouse button menu. Since 'Backspace' is not bound to anything in eeschema, this patch adds the Backspace key to be eq

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Henner Zeller
On 4 February 2014 18:36, Blair Bonnett wrote: > > On 5 February 2014 15:03, Henner Zeller wrote: >> >> ...snip... >> >> This sounds excellent. I think I am going to base my pending work on >> your mirror until the official kicad-source-mirror is fixed to be >> up-to-date. >> >> We need to make s

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Blair Bonnett
On 5 February 2014 15:03, Henner Zeller wrote: > ...snip... > > This sounds excellent. I think I am going to base my pending work on > your mirror until the official kicad-source-mirror is fixed to be > up-to-date. > > We need to make sure though that the reverse path back into the KiCad > source

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Henner Zeller
On 4 February 2014 10:07, Blair Bonnett wrote: > On 5 February 2014 03:07, Brian Sidebotham > wrote: >> >> >> ...snip... >> >> >> I sent the other link very much on purpose, as on that page, a few >> paragraphs in is a link to this page: >> http://www.inkscape.org/en/develop/using-git-repositorie

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 2/4/2014 9:57 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 02/04/2014 12:57 PM, Brian Sidebotham wrote: >> I suspect it's all just a documentation issue too as someone else >> suggested because it's so easy to branch the code and generate a patch >> using Bazaar. >> >> Perhaps the best place for anyone who

Re: [Kicad-developers] Python&QA vs OSX ...

2014-02-04 Thread Marco Serantoni
Sorry, I forgot to reply to all Miguel, As you can see i've committed the part to make possibile the linking of Kicad also with dynamic linking and making binaries portable (scripts/osx_fixbundle.sh ) I'm in those days working on wxPython, i'm confident to release a similar mechanism for Python

Re: [Kicad-developers] [QA] Automated testing for KiCad

2014-02-04 Thread Adam Wolf
There is a script in the source tree that does something like this. I think Dick wrote it. Adam Wolf W&L On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: > I guess you could run uncrustify and do a diff, but unfortunately you > cannot apply uncrustify blindly - sometimes its output seems

Re: [Kicad-developers] [QA] Automated testing for KiCad

2014-02-04 Thread Maciej Sumiński
I guess you could run uncrustify and do a diff, but unfortunately you cannot apply uncrustify blindly - sometimes its output seems a bit odd. One possible solution is to check how many lines were corrected by uncrustify, if above a set threshold (relatively to the whole patch length) - send an

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
- Original Message - > From: Joel Holdsworth > To: kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision > > Hi All, > > Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my original e-mail

Re: [Kicad-developers] [QA] Automated testing for KiCad

2014-02-04 Thread Adam Wolf
I have a Mac running 10.6, and a pretty powerful build server running OSX 10.9 with Windows and Linux VMs for this. They were purchased by Wayne and Layne pretty much exclusively for this purpose. The 10.6 is one of the best ways to create a single Mac package that works on 10.6-current on all sy

Re: [Kicad-developers] [QA] Automated testing for KiCad

2014-02-04 Thread Miguel Angel
Hmmm, Do we have something to check coding style compliance? Not sure if uncrustify does code checking along with reformating if we had that we could automatically check submitted code for style compliance. --- irc: ajo / mangelajo Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo +34 636 52 25 69 skype: ajoajoajo

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision (I come in peace! - with a patch)

2014-02-04 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
> > From: Fabrizio Tappero >To: James Hagerman >Cc: "kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net" > >Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:32 PM >Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision (I come in peace! >- with a patch) > > > >Hi James, >thanks for y

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Fabrizio Tappero
Dear Joel, thank you for your messages, "The KiCad website and KiCad Launchpad page are full of broken or misleading links to old, outdated, or conflicting information. Binaries (and libraries) for all platforms are not readily available on either site." Could you please point out those many bro

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Chris Morgan
> There is another option for people who want to use Git: a mirror. There is a > mirror under the KiCad user account (the one with all the libraries) on > GitHub: > > https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-source-mirror > > However, it usually seems to be out of date, and very sporadically updated. > For s

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Blair Bonnett
On 5 February 2014 03:07, Brian Sidebotham wrote: > > ...snip... > > I sent the other link very much on purpose, as on that page, a few > paragraphs in is a link to this page: > http://www.inkscape.org/en/develop/using-git-repositories/ > > in other words, fill your boots, work with Git on the KiC

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Travis Ayres
> After reading Adam's last email, I think that a complete binary archive/installer for all platforms would make sense (including our own boost/wx libs, just like LibreOffice/Mozilla). Just unpack or run the installer and enjoy! Also, being able to update from inside the program itself is a really

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 03:57:40PM +0100, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > $du -h ./kicad-feat1 > 203M Wait until you compile :P 3,1Gkicad-bzr Also unstripped binaries are a little scary: -rwxr-xr-x 1 lomarcan lomarcan 114433370 feb 3 19:39 pcbnew (yes, ld time is painful). No i7 here, just a D

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 02/04/2014 12:57 PM, Brian Sidebotham wrote: I suspect it's all just a documentation issue too as someone else suggested because it's so easy to branch the code and generate a patch using Bazaar. Perhaps the best place for anyone who has decided Bazaar is dead (it works for me by the way!) an

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Joel Holdsworth
On 04/02/14 14:21, Adam Wolf wrote: > I'd like to make a quick point: producing a package for Kicad > that works on all the Ubuntu flavors, works in both Python > integration modes, *and* follows Ubuntu packaging policy is not a > simple task. I'm about 100 hours into it, maybe more, and while >

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Travis Ayres
This should be a wiki page, and the more time consuming steps should be a wiki pave as well. How amazing (and helpful) would that be? On Feb 4, 2014 3:57 AM, "Brian Sidebotham" wrote: > I suspect it's all just a documentation issue too as someone else > suggested because it's so easy to branch th

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Adam Wolf
I'd like to make a quick point: producing a package for Kicad that works on all the Ubuntu flavors, works in both Python integration modes, *and* follows Ubuntu packaging policy is not a simple task. I'm about 100 hours into it, maybe more, and while I'm just about finished, there is still plenty

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Brian Sidebotham
On 4 February 2014 13:04, Joel Holdsworth wrote: > Hi All, > > Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my original e-mail. It > seems to me that whatever the outcome this discussion it is well worth > having. > > > On 04/02/14 11:57, Brian Sidebotham wrote: >> I suspect it's all just a doc

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Joel Holdsworth
Hi All, Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my original e-mail. It seems to me that whatever the outcome this discussion it is well worth having. On 04/02/14 11:57, Brian Sidebotham wrote: > I suspect it's all just a documentation issue too as someone else > suggested because it's s

Re: [Kicad-developers] Building KiCad on windows

2014-02-04 Thread Brian Sidebotham
On 4 February 2014 09:10, Simon Turner wrote: > The process is probably single core anyway, my machine sat practically idle. > > Simon Unfortunately until some source files have been created by CMake, KiCad-Winbuilder cannot run parallel jobs because the generated source files get corrupted. So t

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Brian Sidebotham
I suspect it's all just a documentation issue too as someone else suggested because it's so easy to branch the code and generate a patch using Bazaar. Perhaps the best place for anyone who has decided Bazaar is dead (it works for me by the way!) and therefore cannot contribute (and particularly gi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 03:08:49AM -0800, Rick Walker wrote: > Then, just use the magic of merge to sync the work between both systems > from time to time. > > So, just fork it and stay in touch. Isn't painful to keep in sync the merge infos between git and bzr... or is there an automated 'bridg

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision

2014-02-04 Thread Rick Walker
Hey Guys, The answer seems simple. The point of both VCSs is to make merges easy. So just break into two different teams. A friendly code-fork. One group works in git and another in Bazaar. New people would have to choose the group to join based on 1) what things they wanted to work on an

Re: [Kicad-developers] Revisiting the Git decision (I come in peace! - with a patch)

2014-02-04 Thread Fabrizio Tappero
Hi James, thanks for your message. Could you please point me to the (say 5) most serious problems that the official kicad website has. I might have some time/ability to fix it. thanks Fab. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:00 AM, James Hagerman wrote: > Hi there, > > I've been lurking and haven't gotte

Re: [Kicad-developers] Building KiCad on windows

2014-02-04 Thread Simon Turner
The process is probably single core anyway, my machine sat practically idle. Simon On 03/02/2014 21:13, Brian Sidebotham wrote: On 3 February 2014 18:38, Milan Horák wrote: Hi, and I am compiling KiCad on VirtualBox Windows XP machine, limited to one core of Phenom 955 and 512MB RAM :-) Mil

[Kicad-developers] Update from CERN

2014-02-04 Thread Javier Serrano
Dear KiCad friends, Here's a quick update on what we have been up to at CERN lately, and also some words on plans for the immediate future, along with opinions on some of the latest subjects discussed in the list: Current developments: Orson is working on porting pcbnew tools to the new tool fram