Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Thank you Marcos! On 7/20/2017 12:04 PM, Marcos Chaparro wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Wayne Stambaugh > wrote: > > Please file bug reports against these issues. > > > routing videos filed as bug report: >

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Marcos Chaparro
Hi Wayne, On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Please file bug reports against these issues. routing videos filed as bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1705520 I tried to find a similar bug report without success, it could a be a

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Please file bug reports against these issues. Missing features may not be noticed during development so it's important if you find something that is missing to report it. I cannot guarantee that all of them will get fixed but I'm willing to bet that many of these issues the gal devs are not even

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
> On 20. Jul 2017, at 16:15, hauptmech wrote: > > The frequent mouse click drops I have not had time to understand enough to > file a bug report. Whether it is PNS event handling or the load put on the > system by PNS plus kicad or WX, I don't know. I can confirm that, I

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread hauptmech
Hi Orson, I do agree that a single solution does not satisfy everyone, nor does it have to. I was just adding my voice to Heikki's that the PNS router does not quite handle some of the basic tasks that I am needing to do, that the legacy interface does handle. The details are complex,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Marcos Chaparro
A few things I remember when using nighties. * disable design rule checking button is ignored in GAL. I use it when I swap 2 pins in the schematic, I turn off drc, make the track change, then rebuild connectivity. Otherwise I end up deleting the whole track and starting over. * On legacy pressing

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 7/20/2017 6:04 AM, Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:47:50PM +0300, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: >> Hi Wayne >> >> Why not support legacy users? Why everybody should use gal canvas? Do not >> have to answer, just try to understand your politics. > > It's legacy because new

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:31:09PM +1200, hauptmech wrote: > > I'm with Heikki. I've been using the GAL canvas for a complex project. I > don't really have time to learn the nuances of the interactive router; I > found that highlight collisions kept it from doing stuff I did not want in > tight

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
The legacy canvas is going to be removed after the v5 release so it would be a waste of time to implement the via tool in the legacy canvas only to have it removed a short time later. On 7/20/2017 5:47 AM, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: > Hi Wayne > > Why not support legacy users? Why everybody should

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Maciej SumiƄski
Hi hauptmech, On 07/20/2017 12:31 PM, hauptmech wrote: > > I'm with Heikki. I've been using the GAL canvas for a complex project. I > don't really have time to learn the nuances of the interactive router; I > found that highlight collisions kept it from doing stuff I did not want > in tight

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread hauptmech
I'm with Heikki. I've been using the GAL canvas for a complex project. I don't really have time to learn the nuances of the interactive router; I found that highlight collisions kept it from doing stuff I did not want in tight layouts and I fall back to legacy for things like tweaking track

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:47:50PM +0300, Heikki Pulkkinen wrote: > Hi Wayne > > Why not support legacy users? Why everybody should use gal canvas? Do not > have to answer, just try to understand your politics. It's legacy because new tools are not available for it, like the P router However

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-20 Thread Heikki Pulkkinen
Hi Wayne Why not support legacy users? Why everybody should use gal canvas? Do not have to answer, just try to understand your politics. Regards Heikki On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:15 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > Heikki, > > I'm not suggesting that we add the new via tool

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-19 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Heikki, I'm not suggesting that we add the new via tool to the legacy canvas. The legacy canvas is going to be removed after the v5 release so it doesn't make much sense. However, having a toolbar button that does nothing will confuse users. That why I suggested that we hide the via toolbar

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-19 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 7/18/2017 1:33 PM, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > Am 18.07.2017 um 18:53 schrieb Wayne Stambaugh: > >> We probably should disable or not even expose the via tool on the right >> toolbar in pcbnew when the legacy canvas is active since it doesn't do >> anything. I think this will just

Re: [Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-18 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Am 18.07.2017 um 18:53 schrieb Wayne Stambaugh: > We probably should disable or not even expose the via tool on the right > toolbar in pcbnew when the legacy canvas is active since it doesn't do > anything. I think this will just confuse users. I can file a bug > report if this helps.

[Kicad-developers] Via tool in Pcbnew.

2017-07-18 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
We probably should disable or not even expose the via tool on the right toolbar in pcbnew when the legacy canvas is active since it doesn't do anything. I think this will just confuse users. I can file a bug report if this helps. Cheers, Wayne ___