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2014-03-15 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 15 Mar 2014 12:52, "Kenneth B. Jones" wrote: > Snipped... > > > John/Rogelio, > > IF certifying under FAR 23, and using other than the listed materials, then the fire test is required. Who knows? Perhaps .005" stainless over Fiberfrax is better than .015 stainless. > > Ken I agree. Someone

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2014-03-15 Thread Dan Prichard
Great info. I guess my point to the original question/comment was the designed material was not easily found or within a reasonable price. The drawings still shows .005 stainless and asbestos on the firewall. Maybe this dialog will bring about some sort of addendum to the drawings with a

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2014-03-15 Thread Kenneth B. Jones
We're NOT certifying under Part 23. The info I provided was in response to a question from John. But, if you want to do the test, you can get some ideas from http://www.fire.tc.faa.gov/handbook.stm On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Rogelio Serrano wrote: > On 15 Mar 2014 12:52, "Kenneth B.

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2014-03-15 Thread Virgil N.Salisbury
Fibnrefrax is the heat shield, not the stainless, Virg On 3/15/2014 8:52 AM, Kenneth B. Jones wrot >> .015 in Stainless seem to be the only option... > Thanks for digging up the reference Ken! I'll see what I ca >> n do. >> >> Right off the bat, the existing plans method for

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2014-03-15 Thread Kenneth B. Jones
> > On Mar 15, 2014, at 7:51 AM, Rogelio Serrano wrote: > .015 in Stainless seem to be the only option... On Mar 15, 2014, at 7:39 AM, John Bouyea wrote: > Thanks for digging up the reference Ken! I'll see what I can do. > > Right off the bat, the existing plans method for constructing

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2014-03-15 Thread Mark Langford
I should probably clarify that the exact type of aluminum doesn't matter much, given that it all melts at about the same temperature. I'm guessing Tony recommended 2024-T6 because it's a little stiffer than most others and would look better, but if you've got any kind of .015" aluminum around,

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2014-03-15 Thread John Bouyea
] On Behalf Of Kenneth B. Jones Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:14 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Firewall material On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:18 PM, John Bouyea wrote: > Anyone make a reference as to what heat level/ temprature and duration is "approved" as a test? > 2000 degrees F for 1

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2014-03-15 Thread Kenneth B. Jones
On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:18 PM, John Bouyea wrote: > Anyone > make a reference as to what heat level/ temprature and duration is > "approved" as a test? > 2000 degrees F for 15 minutes, per part 23. ?23.1191 Firewalls. (a) Each engine, auxiliary power unit, fuel burning heater, and other

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2014-03-14 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com
I am pretty sure that you can get thin galvanized at Home Depot. Any local sheet metal place should have it also. I got a 4' X 8' sheet of I think .016" when I redid my Sonerai and Starduster firewalls. I think it was something like $30. Aluminum will not block a fuel fire for very long.

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2014-03-14 Thread brian.kraut at eamanufacturing.com

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2014-03-14 Thread Virgil N.Salisbury
How much is the Stainless and Fibrefrax firewall kit ? Virg On 3/13/2014 6:59 PM, Dan Prichard wrote: > FYI. Neither wicks or aircraft spruce carry .005 stainless sheet or any other > size below .015. I found a specialty supplier in Ashland Oregon and they want > $63 per sqft. A

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2014-03-13 Thread Rob Schmitt
recall. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/fiberfrax.php?clickkey=6977 Rob Schmitt N1852Z www.robert7721.com -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Prichard Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 5:59 PM To: KR List Subject: KR> Firew

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2014-03-13 Thread Dan Prichard
FYI. Neither wicks or aircraft spruce carry .005 stainless sheet or any other size below .015. I found a specialty supplier in Ashland Oregon and they want $63 per sqft. A touch spendy for me. Fortunately I have a piece coming from a generous KR builder. So for the other new builders out there,

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2014-03-10 Thread Virgil N.Salisbury
Wicks or Aircraft Spruce, Virg On 3/10/2014 8:11 PM, Dan Prichard wrote: > Does anyone know where I can order .005" stainless steel for the firewall? > > Dan Prichard > Portland, OR > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Search the KRnet Archives

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2014-03-10 Thread Dan Prichard
Does anyone know where I can order .005" stainless steel for the firewall? Dan Prichard Portland, OR Sent from my iPhone

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2011-04-05 Thread stef...@kpnmail.nl
Hey guys, Over here in the Netherlands we are bussy with the fwd deck, canopy frame and the aft deck. If I am looking at the next stage we have to think about the fire wall. We have made the decision to go for an 100 HP engine. Did any of you make the connetion from the firewall to the

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2011-03-22 Thread Robert Wood
Hi folks, I have a question. I've been using T88 epoxy and decided to try Aeropoxy PR2032 Resin with PH3660 hardener. I glassed a part of my elevator with it three days ago and, although it has set up and no longer tacky, it is still flexible. I can still indent it with my finger. Is it

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2011-03-17 Thread Mark Langford
McMaster Carr sells various thicknesses of thin stainless steel. I used some .005" for some of the "NACA duct" protection from exhaust heat that I put under those ducts. See http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/117/3710/=bh9nfp . A 24" x 50" piece of .005" is $42.05. Also, a 2'x3' piece of

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2011-03-15 Thread Mark Langford
Some folks asked where to get Fiberfrax. See http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php . I think I used 1/8", but 1/16" is supposed to work fine. I guess that's another reason my plane is heavy, although fiberfrax is a tiny fraction of the weight of stainless steel, and that was my

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2011-03-14 Thread Jose Fuentes
Hmmm that is true, though I do have a real small tank too so there is alot of weight savings there. Guess it all depends on several factors. I guess if I was going the two place route I would worry more about it as tyring to lug 300-400lbs of humans then every single pound saved counts. I won't

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2011-03-14 Thread Mark Langford
Joe Fuentes wrote: >>Was reading though the plans, and it seems it was supposed to have cooking foil thin firewall, .005, gezz that is thin!! No wonder it peeled off with my fingers. I'm going with stainless steel at .035 yea a little more weight, but...<< I thought exactly the same thing, so I