KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-08 Thread John Martindale
-Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Scott via KRnet Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2015 11:53 PM To: nerobro at gmail.com; krnet at list.krnet.org Subject: Re: KR> Fuel handling & fires > There are a lot of halon like materials. snip

KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-07 Thread Adam Tippin
John Martindale In Embraer 145 ( 50 Passenger Jets ) Engine Fire bottles are loaded with Halon. Along with the Baggage compartments Fire extinguishers. > > What do they use on the big jets when they discharge the bottles by hitting > the big red button...I imagine that would be a gas of some ki

KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-07 Thread Jeff Scott
> There are a lot of halon like materials. The datacenter I used to help run > used another air displacement system. I'll look up the brand shortly. > Halotron I think it was. Halotron is the new "enviro-friendly" non-CFC Halon replacement. Like Halon, it is designed to interrupt the chemical

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2015-04-07 Thread laser147 at juno.com
Jeff asked, "How many of you carry a fire extinguisher in your planes?" I do! I bought the little Halon unit that Aircraft Spruce sells. I don't remember paying what they're currently asking for it but do remember it wasn't cheap. I'm normally not that concerned about in-flight fires so I

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2015-04-07 Thread Nerobro
There are a lot of halon like materials. The datacenter I used to help run used another air displacement system. I'll look up the brand shortly. Halotron I think it was. It's a hydrocarbon, and it's evaporation and gas displacment work for smothering, cooling, and displacing :-) Being in the room

KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-06 Thread Jeff Scott
> But I noticed that you can buy a 2# Halon unit just > right for for small planes like our KRs on Amazon for > $25 including a mounting > bracket that's perfect for > mounting it on the front of the spar just in front of > the seat. DJ was kind enough to point out that the Halon extinguishe

KR> Fuel handling & fires

2015-04-06 Thread Jeff Scott
Our discussion last week about fueling, fuel handling, and consequences of mishandling caused me to take an objective look at some of the safety factors involved in my refueling. Overall, I think I follow good practices and do a pretty safe job. However, I also realized that I am woefully shor

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2015-04-06 Thread bjoenunley
When the AH64 Apache would refuel we always had a fire extinguisher close by. Also a good idea for me. I will be keeping one handy for me during refueling operations on my airplanes.? Has anyone read NTSB reports about wood airplanes catching fire during refueling? Or know of any? The Apache h

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2015-04-06 Thread Dj Merrill
Unless you want IFR inside the cabin, you don't want to use a dry powder extinguisher. I've been told, but haven't confirmed, that the dry powder can cause corrosion, also not good in an aircraft. It is impossible to clean it all up, and you can't wash it away either since that just pushes i

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2015-04-06 Thread Adam Tippin
For those that are unfamiliar with Fire Extinguisher Types??? Halon is designed to Consume all Oxygen in the area?.. I don?t know how wise it is to have in the cockpit with you. Personally I would suggest a dry chem. Extinguisher for electrical fires. Its more clean up but less chance of consumi

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2015-04-06 Thread Patrick Driscoll
The US Air force uses Halon extinguishers and when I was in the reserves, I had Halon extinguishers in my print shop. When I needed to recharge them, The Air Force Fire unit would do it for me for free. They no longer do it due to the EPA claiming that Halon is not eco friendly, so the price of

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2015-04-06 Thread Chris Kinnaman
ABC extinguishers will cause airframe-killing corrosion in aluminum airplanes. On 4/6/2015 5:32 PM, Dj Merrill via KRnet wrote: > Unless you want IFR inside the cabin, you don't want to use a dry powder > extinguisher. > > I've been told, but haven't confirmed, that the dry powder can cause > c