Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all!!! I think that the main Lab issue is strictly related to the fact that releases are not allowed, so people prefer setting up a new project/community outside, giving releases to users, then propose to join the Incubator. Take this just as my personal opinion: if, maybe, labs would allowed on

Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > It has become pretty quiet here at Labs over the last months. > How should we make Labs more popular?... Labs are probably quiet because there's no real need for them - as others say, experiments are more visible to the world at larg

Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread ant elder
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 27/05/2011 11:58, Ross Gardler wrote: >> >> On 27/05/2011 08:25, ant elder wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Jochen Wiedmann >>> wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, ant elder wrote: >> >> ... >> > - provide

Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>> Changing this would mean changing the whole purpose of labs, it would no >> longer be labs. > "It would be worth revisiting why labs was created and ask have any of the > motivations changed?" >From the labs website - the bullet point i found most important: "Apache Labs is a place for innova

Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread Ross Gardler
On 27/05/2011 11:58, Ross Gardler wrote: On 27/05/2011 08:25, ant elder wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, ant elder wrote: ... - provide access to non-existing ASF people. Perhaps something like as long as there is an ASF commit

Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread Ross Gardler
On 27/05/2011 08:25, ant elder wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, ant elder wrote: ... - provide access to non-existing ASF people. Perhaps something like as long as there is an ASF committer initially creating the lab then th

Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread ant elder
Gosh, that doesn't seem a very positive reception to change. Some comments in line. ...ant On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, ant elder wrote: > >>  - support git. I'm not up to speed on the current state of play with >> the ASF infrast

Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread Ross Gardler
It would be worth revisiting why labs was created and ask have any of the motivations changed? Other hosting environments existed at that time. There are sound legal and resource reasons why non-ASF people and releases are not allowed. As VP ComDev I am -1 on encouraging GSoCers to do their

Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I like these two: >> - perhaps provide a really low overhead type of lab where you don't >> need a vote to accept it, create doap files, or update websites etc, >> more like just an svn sandbox to hold some code when i outlined my json component, I was not sure how much work I could put into it.

Re: [LABS] How to revive Labs?

2011-05-27 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:48 AM, ant elder wrote: >  - support git. I'm not up to speed on the current state of play with > the ASF infrastructure git support but it sounded like it was starting > to happen so labs could try to be one of the initial users That's a discussion, which is completely