[lace] RE:measurements & Puncetto

2007-07-30 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I use the fingers to nose measurement for a yard - and fingers to nose turned away for the metric measurement. Turning my head away seems to give me approximately the extra 3inches!! It is a rough measurement, but a good general standby when out and about where there is no handy measuring tape!

Re: [lace] 19th Century lacemaker Northants.

2007-07-30 Thread David in Ballarat
Dear Malvary, A quick look at the 1851 census shows that she already had 3 boys - Thomas (6), Barkos (3) and Parosh (10 mo). By 1861 she is working as a shoe closer (lots of shoe making in Northants) and has 6 children. Thomas is now 16, Barkos 13, Parosh must have died. There is a girl Vennet

Re: [lace] My reply to David re Northants lacemakers

2007-07-30 Thread David in Ballarat
Dear Diana, Thanks so much for your reply. I've checked my Northamptonshire lace research. I found a Mrs Barker listed at Earls Barton in the lace dealers sample book in the collection of Luton Museum but that is too early at 1825/28. Now I am wondering whether the Mrs. BARKER you have liste

RE: [lace] Shangai Lace Shop

2007-07-30 Thread Kim Davis
We went to Shanghai about 2 years ago in the spring. I saw a lot of cheap machine made lace, but nothing handmade. Kim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathalie Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 5:06 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Shanga

Re: [lace] Rage

2007-07-30 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Jul 30, 2007, at 15:17, Aurelia Loveman wrote: Dear Clay -- Did you copy your thought about Gallery Director to Devon? And did you get Tamara's L-O-N-G e-mail (about how she hasn't got the fire or the ego!)? Funny... I have a little feature which tells me how large each message (sent or

[lace] Definitions and Lace

2007-07-30 Thread C Johnson
Hello everyone, Well, Jane O'Connor wanted me to post this so here goes... Modern and Contemporary are so close in meaning that I think they should be tossed out. It should be: 1.. Traditional 2.. Mixed Lace 3.. Or - give it a new name. Lacemakers who design are: 1.. Traditionalists 2..

Re: [lace] Fans

2007-07-30 Thread Beth Schoenberg
Here I go, de-lurking again --- On 31/07/2007, at 12:45 AM, Sue Babbs wrote: I recall that Springett's used to sell fan sticks and patterns to fit those sticks. Does anyone still sell these or equivalent patterns and fansticks? Sue Bobbin-maker and genius-gadgeteer John Beswick, here in Aus

Re: [lace] Modern Lace Dream Team/more

2007-07-30 Thread Aurelia Loveman
Dear Devon -- I would not get waylaid by the word "judge." A lot depends on who the gallery owner would be. If it were a subsidiary forum of Arachne, I should think space would be open to any spider who had original work and wanted to show it, much as is done at present by IOLI and CRLG (we ha

RE: [lace] Re:Fans

2007-07-30 Thread Ruth Budge
The bobbin making part of the Springett's business was taken over by Roseground Lace Supplies after the Fountains gave up. I'm not sure what other parts of the Springett's business they have, but it might be worth emailing them to ask. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)   -Original Message-

[lace] Re:Fans

2007-07-30 Thread Jenny De Angelis
Hi Sue, I have a leaflet from Christine Springett that she sent me a couple of years ago. It shows her patterna and books that she sells but the Fans patterns and sticks, and all of the card making kits etc., that she used to have in her catalogue are no longer shown. The leaflet only shows Co

RE: [lace] Puncetto knotted needle lace

2007-07-30 Thread Annette Meldrum
Sorry all, it is chapter 21 not 11. I wrote in a hurry. Also, the Anchor manual is a great book and readily available. It has recently undergone another reprint in paperback. Regards Annette Meldrum -Original Message- From: Aurelia Loveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 30 July 2

Re: [lace] 19th Century lacemaker Northants.

2007-07-30 Thread Malvary J Cole
A quick look at the 1851 census shows that she already had 3 boys - Thomas (6), Barkos (3) and Parosh (10 mo). By 1861 she is working as a shoe closer (lots of shoe making in Northants) and has 6 children. Thomas is now 16, Barkos 13, Parosh must have died. There is a girl Vennetia 10. Then D

Re: [lace] Re: Measurments

2007-07-30 Thread Linda & Bill Mitchell
Reminds me of my brother who ended up over 6'4" tall. I was transferring into a class in high school. The teacher had had my brother in a previous class and upon recognizing my last name (Bachman), he asked if Bill was my brother. I said yes, and he asked, "Tell me, do his arm still reach his

Re: [lace] RE:measurements

2007-07-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
With my arm stretched back nose to fingertip is a yard - a metre is fingertip to opposite shoulder. Brenda On 30 Jul 2007, at 17:32, Helen Bell wrote: I too learnt (more by copying) to measure/estimate a yard from nose to fingertip from Mum. That's kind of hard to do when your not fully gro

Re: [lace] Ells and other old measurement

2007-07-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I too was taught to wind bobbins by the arm length of thread. Brenda On 29 Jul 2007, at 22:41, Sue wrote: This line reminds me of my first lovely lace tutor who now sadly suffers with Alzheimer's she used to say wind on three armfuls of thread onto the bobbins and would pull off three arm len

[lace] Fans (2)

2007-07-30 Thread Jean Nathan
Just remembered, Kleinhout in Holland also sell stick sets with anything from 8 to 20 sticks per fan. Unfortunately there are no pictures. http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/fans/ and, of course there's Malcolm Cox, who advertises on the suppliers page of the UK Lace Guild web site. Jean in Poole,

[lace] Fans

2007-07-30 Thread Jean Nathan
Sue wrote: those sticks. Does anyone still sell these or equivalent patterns and fansticks?> Try SMP to see if they do anything you like: http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/smplace/sfr_cat.htm I think someone was selling the Springett patterns and sticks at one time, but can't recall who. Jean

[lace] My reply to David re Northants lacemakers

2007-07-30 Thread Diana Smith
Hello David I've checked my Northamptonshire lace research. I found a Mrs Barker listed at Earls Barton in the lace dealers sample book in the collection of Luton Museum but that is too early at 1825/28. In 1891 there was a lace exhibition at Northampton and listed as submitting two items of lac

Re: [lace] 19th Century lacemaker Northants.

2007-07-30 Thread bevw
I was wondering if 'lacemaker' could also mean an employee of the machine lace industry, in this case? Though with her oldest child being about 6 at the time of the census, I suppose it is more likely she made lace by hand. On 7/30/07, David in Ballarat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > he descends >

Re: [lace] Rage

2007-07-30 Thread Aurelia Loveman
Dear Clay -- Did you copy your thought about Gallery Director to Devon? And did you get Tamara's L-O-N-G e-mail (about how she hasn't got the fire or the ego!)? Nothing like having cold water thrown over a new baby. However, I imagine that happens routinely with the emergence of a new idea.

[lace] 19th Century lacemaker Northants.

2007-07-30 Thread David in Ballarat
Dear Friends, This is a long shot, but I'm doing some family history for one of the blokes who was with me in Vietnam and have found out that he descends from a Northamptonshire lacemaker. She was Mary Ann BARKER (nee JAMES) b. 1824 Ecton, Northamptonshire, d. 1907 Northampton. Her 7 children

[lace] Fans

2007-07-30 Thread Sue Babbs
I recall that Springett's used to sell fan sticks and patterns to fit those sticks. Does anyone still sell these or equivalent patterns and fansticks? Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, writ

RE: [lace] Ells and other old measurement

2007-07-30 Thread Jay Ekers
As Brenda reported 30 July 2007 >an English ell is 45 inches whilst a French ell is 54 inches. In August last year I accompanied DH to a conference in Prague. And I just happened to photograph a standard ell - an upright metal strip attached to a door frame. Too many photos that day to write th