Re: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-31 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Dear Lyn, again a bit late. In a certain time If I am right at the beginning of 20th century a sort of Binche (with lots of tallies) was named Feen-Spitze - fairy-lace. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help,

Re: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
I have been following this thread about the loss of very fine flax with interest. I know that about ten years ago Bart & Francis in Belgium were looking into the possibility of producing fine linen thread again, and Francis Busschaert kindly sent me a sample of 130/2 NeL linen. His comments at

[lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-31 Thread lacel...@frontier.com
In my studies of lace history, the old very-fine threads ceased being produced about 1800. The cotton gin was invented about 1790. It let cotton be produced in great quantity at a much cheaper price than fine linen. For comparison, if a spool of cotton were $10, a spool of linen would be

Re: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-30 Thread robinlace
Kim touches on another point in this discussion. We may not have fine linen thread because of extinction (perhaps brought on by war) of the extra-fine cultivars, but that's not the whole story. We also don't have them because breeding new extra-fine cultivars isn't economically feasible.

Re: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-30 Thread Vicki Bradford
As a hand spinner, I am also interested in the thread questions Kim raises. I have heard various reasons given regarding why we can’t have linen thread as fine as was used in early pieces. The question of supply and demand may be one of the most plausible. The other point I have always been

Re: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-30 Thread Kim Davis
Regarding the thread, I am also interested in this topic. I have heard a few theories surrounding why we don't have it anymore. The first was that the fields were bombed by the Germans in WWI, and the strain of plant destroyed. This didn't make sense to me because we stopped seeing the fine

Re: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-30 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Lorelei, I can't remember where I got that. I hope it's not lace urban legend! We can't use the lack of fine-thread Val after 1780-1800 because I think that may be circular: I suspect the lace is often dated on the basis of what is assumed about the thread. I've done some superficial looking

RE: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-30 Thread Lorelei Halley
the French revolution. Where did you find that statement? I'm just curious. Subject: Re: [lace] Faery Lace? "I think all modern Binche falls into "Point de Fee" or "Fairy Lace All the commercial Binche lace, for the tourist industry, is Point de Fee. (or if linen the thread w

RE: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-30 Thread Lorelei Halley
ic example -- http://lynxlace.com/images/lace342a.jpg Lorelei Subject: [lace] Faery Lace? "a rather small circle doily of Binche with the Antelope from Anne-Marie Verbecke-Billiet's Syllabus of Binch. The label described it as Faery Lace. Maybe it was Fairy LaceI pointed out to the sal

Re: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-30 Thread N.A. Neff
Hi Devon and Lyn, I think all modern Binche falls into "Point de Fee" or "Fairy Lace", except for a few recent designs done by AnneMarie Verbeke-Billiet, Kumiko Nakasaki, and a few others, in the old style. All the commercial Binche lace, for the tourist industry, is Point de Fee. About the

Re: [lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-30 Thread Devon Thein
<> There is a form of Binche called Point de Fee, which translates to Fairy (Faery) Lace. But, usually we hear it in the US as Point de Fee. It is a form of Binche with a lot of tallies in it. I think a lot of it was made in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Devon On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at

[lace] Faery Lace?

2018-08-30 Thread lynrbailey
I am in Brussels. The Museum of Costume and Lace has one room of lace. There are drawers of lace, in chronological order, as well as a film. I did buy the booklet concerning it, and tried to take good pictures, without flash, of all the lace. I do believe that lace exhibits miss the mark if