[lace-chat] Richard III remains

2013-02-05 Thread Jean Nathan
Devon and Martha (and the rest of us) would be interested in the DNA results for the Princes in the tower. Now they have positive identification for the remains of Richard, I suspect they might well now look into that. It made sense to go for the big one which they could easily justify. This

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III's remains identified!!

2013-02-05 Thread David C COLLYER
At 04:39 AM 5/02/2013, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: OK, so am I the only person who wants to see an analysis of the DNA of the bodies found in the Tower a few years ago, thought to be the Little Princes? No you are definitely NOT alone in that desire. I've read a number of fiction based on fact

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III's remains identified!!

2013-02-05 Thread David C COLLYER
Jane, Hi All, I see no one mentioned Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey. It's a mystery story about Richard III and it says he did not kill the little princes. I'll have to get it out, it's been a while since I read it. Do you recall who she did blame? Penman was very convincing with her

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2013-02-05 Thread Sue
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Re: [lace-chat] Richard III's remains identified!!

2013-02-05 Thread jviking
Hi David and All, Josephine Tey seems to blame Henry VII. The book also mentions books by Buck in the seventeenth century, Horace Walpole in the 18th and Markham in the 19th century that claim Richard III didn't kill the Little Princes! Guess that's why I thought it was real! Very interesting!

[lace-chat] Richard III's remains identified

2013-02-05 Thread Jean Nathan
It's appeared on our news today that funding is now being sought to excavate a grave in a Winchester church to see if it contains the remains of Alfred the Great. He reigned from 871 to 899. They think there are five skulls and other bones in the grave, but it will be even more difficult to

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III's remains identified

2013-02-05 Thread Dmt11home
York Minster has written to the Queen to request that Richard III be reburied in York Minster because he was crowned there. his son is buried there and several other reasons, but permission was given to exhume the skeleton at Leicester on the proviso that it was reburied in Leicester and

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III's remains identified

2013-02-05 Thread Jill Hawkins
One of the major considerations is that all the proposed burial places are Anglican, and Richard was a pre-reformation Catholic.  Therein lies a dilemma Jill Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2 To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat

[lace-chat] Richard III burial

2013-02-05 Thread Dmt11home
Jill wrote: One of the major considerations is that all the proposed burial places are Anglican, and Richard was a pre-reformation Catholic. Â Therein lies a dilemma But Westminster Abbey was also Catholic prior to the Reformation, so where is the problem? From the website: Westminster

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III burial

2013-02-05 Thread Scotlace
Actually all old churches and cathedrals in the UK were Catholic in pre Reformation days - and there are hundreds of them around. Basically (I think) Anglican and the majority of Church of Scotland (Presbyterian)churches were originally Catholic. The only ones you can assume weren't are

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III burial

2013-02-05 Thread Adele Shaak
Yes, but Westminster Abbey isn't in the running. Richard III was born in Yorkshire and funded building projects in York Minster - which was, at the time, a very important church - and is the largest gothic cathedral in northern Europe. Leicester Cathedral, on the other hand, though medieval,

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III burial

2013-02-05 Thread Dmt11home
And, I think you can assume that most of them were built on sacred springs that pre-dated Christian worship. Just sayin... From what it says about Westminster Abbey, it was built by Henry III, who was himself a Catholic and a Plantagenet! He's buried in Westminster Abbey. So, I am still a

[lace-chat] Richard III's remains identified

2013-02-05 Thread Jean Nathan
The problem is that the condition for granting the exhumation was that the remains be buried in Leicester and by August 2013. Here at least you can't just go around digging up bones no matter how old they are - there are formalities that have to be gone through and permission has to be granted.

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III burial

2013-02-05 Thread scotlace
A. I really don't see why the reburial of ancient bones should be determined by convenience to tourists and, as others have said, there are considerations which are really important. B. Actually, it would be good for tourists not to limit their visits to London (or Edinburgh or Cardiff, the

[lace-chat] Richard III facial reconstruction

2013-02-05 Thread Jean Nathan
There are several web sites which show the facial reconstruction, probably the best is: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/richard-iii-facial-reconstruction-shows-1586792 The portraits of him were discussed in the Channel 4 programme shown last night, and it was said that whoever

[lace-chat] Richard III burial

2013-02-05 Thread Jean Nathan
Patricia wrote: B. Actually, it would be good for tourists not to limit their visits to London (or Edinburgh or Cardiff, the three capitals) and see more of the country. The entire country is rich with history. Especially as the whole of England (excluding Wales, Scotland and Northern

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III burial

2013-02-05 Thread Dmt11home
Actually, it would be good for tourists not to limit their visits to London (or Edinburgh or Cardiff, the three capitals) and see more of the country. The entire country is rich with history I guess I had better put little smiley faces whenever I am speaking facetiously... A lot of people