Paul Ishenin wrote:
Alexander Klenin wrote:
If there is a general agreement, I can prepare detailed proposal for
consolidation,
but as a quick sketch:
1) Find procedure should be merged into Code explorer
What is Find procedure? But since I dont use it I am not against :)
2) Find in
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:
FWIW, I often use Quick search (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
How does quick search work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
seach for, pressed Ctrl+E. It showed seaching in the editor status
bar, but nothing further.
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:
FWIW, I often use Quick search (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
How does quick search work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
seach for, pressed Ctrl+E. It showed seaching in the
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 18:28, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:
FWIW, I often use Quick search (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
How does quick search work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
seach for,
Alexander Klenin wrote:
I think that while Lazarus IDE has many great features, they are not well
organized. Various Lazarus developers added convenience features with
a separate user interfaces, so the features are dispersed all over UI
and hard to discover.
IMHO the good way forward is to
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:
FWIW, I often use Quick search (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
How does quick search work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
seach for, pressed Ctrl+E. It showed
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Martin Friebe laza...@mfriebe.de wrote:
Highlight (as in block-selection) and then search for it = use ctrl-f
Yeah, that's what I normally use...
Quick search (or incremental search) (ctrl-e) means you start the search
with an empty search-term, then as you
Zitat von Martin Friebe laza...@mfriebe.de:
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:
FWIW, I often use Quick search (Ctrl+E) for code navigation,
How does quick search work? I highlighted an identifier I want to
seach for,
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Alexander Klenin kle...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, documentation is good.
But it is well-known fact that users do not read documentation ;-)
Exactly why I decided on using animated gifs. User only needs to view
them and not read content to get the idea of a feature.
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Martin Friebe laza...@mfriebe.de wrote:
1) Find procedure should be merged into Code explorer
Ok by me. (I never used it :) ) It's partly there anyway.
Lets discuss it first - I use procedure list a *lot*. And at the
moment it's behaviour is different to
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
It's called 'procedure list' and its default key is Alt-G, which does
not work on all widgetsets.
Do you mean the shortcut doesn't work or the actual procedure List
dialog doesn't work on all widgetsets?
Since I switched from GTK1 to GTK2,
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
2) Find in files, Messages and Code observer should be merged
together,
with interface most resembling Find in files
I can't see how these can be combined. They are totally different
features. Maybe the result windows could be docked
1) Find procedure should be merged into Code explorer
Ok by me. (I never used it :) ) It's partly there anyway.
Lets discuss it first - I use procedure list a *lot*. And at the
moment it's behaviour is different to code explorer.
Of course, no need to rush.
But notice how even many people
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com:
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
It's called 'procedure list' and its default key is Alt-G, which does
not work on all widgetsets.
Do you mean the shortcut doesn't work or the actual procedure List
dialog doesn't work
Erm...
Ok, maybe I know more about UI than others, maybe I know less.
But IMHO, *everything* should be accessible via the menu. So if you
don\'t know a shortcut, you can click
Menu - IDE Tools - Procedure list
Menu - IDE Tools - Anchor Viewer
Menu - IDE Tools - Identifier Completion
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Alexander Klenin wrote:
* Procedure List jumps to Implementation section. Code Explorer to
Interface section.
I would prefer to always jump to implementation, but it can be made an option.
Yup, I prefer that too.
* In procedure list, when you press Enter
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner wrote:
Do you mean the shortcut doesn't work or the actual procedure List
dialog doesn't work on all widgetsets?
Alt-G does not work. With other short cuts it works.
Does it conflict with OS or Desktop Manager? For example:
Ctrl+Alt+[F1-F12] under Ubuntu is grabbed
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Reenen Laurie rlau...@gmail.com wrote:
Menu - IDE Tools - Procedure list
Menu - IDE Tools - Anchor Viewer
Both of these are already under the View menu.
Menu - IDE Tools - Identifier Completion (ctrl-space) (says -you need
have typed half of an identifier
Mattias just mentioned the following page in anther message thread. I
thought it's worth mentioning it in it's own message thread.
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_IDE_Tools
WOW!!! I have learnt quite a few new tricks by reading that page.
Ctrl+Shift+C is so much more powerful that
I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on a VirtualBox 2.2.2 Virtual Machine, and
noted that Lazarus 0.9.26, the one you can download by issuing an
apt-get install lazarus is painfully slow, unusable, specially when
compiled for GTK2.
Does anyone faced the same problem?
--
Leonardo M. Ramé
Griensu
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys
graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Martin Friebe laza...@mfriebe.de wrote:
Highlight (as in block-selection) and then search for it = use ctrl-f
Yeah, that's what I normally use...
Quick search (or incremental
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 00:02, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Mattias just mentioned the following page in anther message thread. I
thought it's worth mentioning it in it's own message thread.
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_IDE_Tools
WOW!!! I have learnt quite
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé l.r...@griensu.com wrote:
Does anyone faced the same problem?
I don't have slowness, but I do have other graphics problems with
fpGUI Toolkit and MSEgui and applications run under WINE. Ubuntu 9.04
has had some serious graphics bugs since the
2009/5/6 Flávio Etrusco flavio.etru...@gmail.com:
Quick Search would be something that Lazarus seems to still be
missing: search the identifier under the caret.
Ctrl+F automatically takes what's under the caret and inserts it as
the search text. I think this is configurable somewhere in
Zitat von Flávio Etrusco flavio.etru...@gmail.com:
[...]
Quick Search would be something that Lazarus seems to still be
missing: search the identifier under the caret.
Like in Visual Studio: Ctrl+F3 to search forwared and Ctrl+Shift+F3
backwards.
Or with Experts: Ctrl+Alt+Down and
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
Or with Experts: Ctrl+Alt+Down and Ctrl+Alt+Up.
I've always intended to implement this, but...
.. but it was already there:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_IDE_Tools#Find_next_.2F_previous_word_occurrence
Yet again you impress
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 13:40, Paul Ishenin i...@kmiac.ru wrote:
Please create a wiki page. After few revisions it can become a part of
roadmap.
http://wiki.freepascal.org/IDE_UI_Consolidation
--
Alexander S. Klenin
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Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com:
[...]
Or with Experts: Ctrl+Alt+Down and Ctrl+Alt+Up.
I've always intended to implement this, but...
Me too! :) I used to use that a lot in Delphi 7 + GExperts.
Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down is often used in linux for desktop switching.
Mattias
On 5/6/09, Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Reenen Laurie rlau...@gmail.com wrote:
Menu - IDE Tools - Procedure list
Menu - IDE Tools - Anchor Viewer
Both of these are already under the \View\ menu.
Procedure list is not on my view menu...
Thanks Graeme. BTW, do you know a repository with the latest FPC and
Lazarus versions?
Leonardo M. Ramé
Griensu S.A. - Medical IT Córdoba
Tel.: 0351 - 4247979
Graeme Geldenhuys escribió:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé l.r...@griensu.com wrote:
Does anyone faced the
Martin Friebe schrieb:
2) Find in files, Messages and Code observer should be merged together,
with interface most resembling Find in files
IMHO, this (point 2) would be even more a specialization. Also I can't
see how those 3 relate at all.
They can use the same Search Results window
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
Yes, documentation is good.
But it is well-known fact that users do not read documentation ;-)
Exactly why I decided on using animated gifs. User only needs to view
them and not read content to get the idea of a feature. :)
Users who don't want to waste time with
2009/5/6 Mattias Gärtner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
Or with Experts: Ctrl+Alt+Down and Ctrl+Alt+Up.
I've always intended to implement this, but...
Me too! :) I used to use that a lot in Delphi 7 + GExperts.
Ctrl+Alt+Up/Down is often used in linux for desktop switching.
I know, and that's
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé l.r...@griensu.com wrote:
Thanks Graeme. BTW, do you know a repository with the latest FPC and
Lazarus versions?
No, I always use SVN Git repositories directly for FPC and Lazarus.
I know FPC is in the apt repository, but I'm not sure what
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Reenen Laurie rlau...@gmail.com wrote:
What does Enclose Selection do?
Click it - I dare you! ;-)
It allows you to choose with what you want to wrap the currently selected code.
eg: try..finaly, try..except, repeat..until, while..do, {} etc..
I learnt
On Wed, 6 May 2009, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Leonardo M. Ramé l.r...@griensu.com
wrote:
Does anyone faced the same problem?
I don't have slowness, but I do have other graphics problems with
fpGUI Toolkit and MSEgui and applications run under WINE.
Alexander Klenin schrieb:
All floating windows should be dockable. We have already a docking
manager. The missing part is to finish the save/restore of the layout.
I started to look at fixing save/restore once, but dropped it since docking
is being rewritten by Hans-Peter Diettrich
It will
Hi,
Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
BTW, do you know a repository with the latest FPC and Lazarus versions?
See
http://wiki.freepascal.org/Getting_Lazarus#Getting_Lazarus_from_our_Ubuntu_repository
. It also has a more recent version than the official Ubuntu repository,
(which crashed quite often
Zitat von Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com:
Martin Friebe schrieb:
2) Find in files, Messages and Code observer should be
merged together,
with interface most resembling Find in files
IMHO, this (point 2) would be even more a specialization. Also I can't
see how those 3 relate
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
The problem with Code Explorer and FPDoc Editor type windows is
that they use processing power as you navigate or switch units.
Apropos switch units: who made the editor tab shifting almost useless?
IMO the scroll buttons should scroll the editor tabs by pages, not
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Martin Friebe laza...@mfriebe.de wrote:
1) Find procedure should be merged into Code explorer
Ok by me. (I never used it :) ) It's partly there anyway.
Lets discuss it first - I use procedure list a *lot*. And at the
moment it's
Lazarus is only so slow in VirtualBox.
Its no Lazarus Version issue or an PC issue.
Its works in every VirtualBox very slow and every other GTK2 app is fast.
also generated executables are very slow.
best regards
Christian
- Original Message -
From: Leonardo M. Ramé l.r...@griensu.com
2009/5/7 Bogusław Brandys bran...@o2.pl:
In fact we see here old problem of two rights - both groups are right ,
partially.
While it would be nice to have as many nice features placed in one Code
explorer as possible - that WILL double windows, because someone not
using docking (due to
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 02:25, Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com wrote:
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
The problem with Code Explorer and FPDoc Editor type windows is
that they use processing power as you navigate or switch units.
Apropos switch units: who made the editor tab shifting
Christian U. wrote:
Lazarus is only so slow in VirtualBox.
Its no Lazarus Version issue or an PC issue.
Its works in every VirtualBox very slow and every other GTK2 app is fast.
also generated executables are very slow.
best regards
Christian
I bet ONLY GUI related executables,right ?
2009/5/6 Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org:
Or install KUbuntu 9.04, which works lightning fast, and so far
without visible bugs. I updated a PC and a Laptop, and all went
smoothly...
Sorry Michael, but it has the same problem here. Run a fpGUI based
application or Windows
Zitat von Bogusław Brandys bran...@o2.pl:
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Martin Friebe laza...@mfriebe.de wrote:
1) Find procedure should be merged into Code explorer
Ok by me. (I never used it :) ) It's partly there anyway.
Lets discuss it first - I use
Alexander Klenin wrote:
2009/5/7 Bogusław Brandys bran...@o2.pl:
In fact we see here old problem of two rights - both groups are right ,
partially.
While it would be nice to have as many nice features placed in one Code
explorer as possible - that WILL double windows, because someone not
Alexander Klenin wrote:
2009/5/7 Bogusław Brandys bran...@o2.pl:
In fact we see here old problem of two rights - both groups are right ,
partially.
While it would be nice to have as many nice features placed in one Code
explorer as possible - that WILL double windows, because someone not
Mattias Gärtner schrieb:
I plan more tools like the code browser - that scans whole source
trees and need two or three hundred megabytes. But these tools will
not be invoked by default and they share the same memory.
The code explorer can be seen as the map in a master-detail view. Then
Alexander Klenin schrieb:
IMO the scroll buttons should scroll the editor tabs by pages, not
activate the next left/right tab.
I prefer the current way. I guess that depends on the number of
units opened a once -- I usually try not to have too many.
Unit Controls plus the *.inc files does
On Wed, 6 May 2009, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
2009/5/6 Michael Van Canneyt mich...@freepascal.org:
Or install KUbuntu 9.04, which works lightning fast, and so far
without visible bugs. I updated a PC and a Laptop, and all went
smoothly...
Sorry Michael, but it has the same problem
Martin Friebe wrote:
div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedAlexander
Klenin wrote:
I think that while Lazarus IDE has many great features, they are not
well
organized. Various Lazarus developers added convenience features with
a separate user interfaces, so the features
Dear Mr. Graeme Geldenhuys:
I read the documentation mentioned about gif, but really, I dont feel sure
to do that.
I want to attach the running leopard in my applications. Its possible?
thanks in advance,
yours truly,
Ing. Héctor F. Fiandor
hfian...@infomed.sld.cu
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
mich...@freepascal.org wrote:
only QT/GTK based apps, which don't seem to have the problem you mention.
The only explanation I have for this is theming. I wrote a 20 line
application talking directly to XLib (not via fpGUI) and reproduced
the
To heat the discussion up:
From the wiki:
Watches/Local variables/Registers
All three are a lists of name/value pairs used at debug time.
They should be merged together in a single list with appropriate
filtering capabilities.
That would make debugging so much harder.
Let's assume
2009/5/6 Héctor Fiandor Rosario hfian...@infomed.sld.cu:
I read the documentation mentioned about gif, but really, I dont feel sure
to do that.
That is only meant for creating animated gifs for the wiki page - not
for embedding them into your application.
I want to attach the running
2009/5/6 Héctor Fiandor Rosario hfian...@infomed.sld.cu:
I read the documentation mentioned about gif, but really, I dont feel sure
to do that.
That is only meant for creating animated gifs for the wiki page - not
for embedding them into your application.
I want to attach the running
Leslie Kaye schrieb:
Pleas do not have docking in the UI!!! It might look cool bot it is a
pain to use and program.
Program what?
Windows accidentally un-dock and attach to your mouse then end up
anywhere so you spend ages trying to get it back to how it was.
This happens only with the
Hi Leonardo:
I run Lazarus 0.9.27 in Ubuntu 9.04 without problem (GTK2). But i run
Windows XP in VirtualBox and some applications are very slow and take
the CPU to 100%.
I tried VMPlayer and it works very well. I think that there are some
bugs in VirtualBox that remains from old versions.
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 08:56, Martin Friebe laza...@mfriebe.de wrote:
To heat the discussion up:
From the wiki:
Watches/Local variables/Registers
All three are a lists of name/value pairs used at debug time.
They should be merged together in a single list with appropriate
filtering
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