Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Dmitry Boyarintsev via lazarus
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 12:44 PM Dmitry Boyarintsev < skalogryz.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > Having educational purposes in mind, can variable masking be > achieved through IDE itself, rather than the compiler. > Yes, i do realize that it might get worse when it comes to debugging, where the same

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Dmitry Boyarintsev via lazarus
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 10:08 AM Special via lazarus < lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org> wrote: > on a Elementary School near Heidelberg the nine-years-old pupils learn > programming with Delphi 10.3 Community Edition. In one of the programs > they use 'Type ZimmerType = (Küche, Wohnzimmer,

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Sven Barth via lazarus
Martin Frb via lazarus schrieb am Fr., 3. Juli 2020, 17:02: > On 03/07/2020 16:37, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, Martin Frb via lazarus wrote: > > > >> On 03/07/2020 16:21, Péter Gábor via lazarus wrote: > >>> Hi! > >>> > >>> I hope that you did not

Re: [Lazarus] Laz next release- Cocoa WS

2020-07-03 Thread Sven Barth via lazarus
Alexey Tor. via lazarus schrieb am Fr., 3. Juli 2020, 14:07: > IMO it's good to make Cocoa the default WS! Why? macOS is now all-64bit, > so Carbon (old WS)+32bit apps cannot run (or run with a warning). > For 64-bit it already is the default now, cause otherwise 64-bit wouldn't work as it's

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Martin Frb via lazarus
On 03/07/2020 16:37, Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, Martin Frb via lazarus wrote: On 03/07/2020 16:21, Péter Gábor via lazarus wrote: Hi! I hope that you did not misread my words/sentences. Your example if perfect to illustrate the reason why I don't want

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread R.Smith via lazarus
Michael: I did a quick test in Delphi: program doti; {$APPTYPE CONSOLE} ... Great job - Thanks. That came in as I was contemplating doing the same test. I wonder how this test will go in Python - I suppose it cannot matter for case-sensitive languages. --

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Michael Van Canneyt via lazarus
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020, Martin Frb via lazarus wrote: On 03/07/2020 16:21, Péter Gábor via lazarus wrote: Hi! I hope that you did not misread my words/sentences. Your example if perfect to illustrate the reason why I don't want international characters in the language itself (and identifiers).

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Martin Frb via lazarus
On 03/07/2020 16:21, Péter Gábor via lazarus wrote: Hi! I hope that you did not misread my words/sentences. Your example if perfect to illustrate the reason why I don't want international characters in the language itself (and identifiers). Yes, that was my understanding. You gave reasons why

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Péter Gábor via lazarus
Hi! I hope that you did not misread my words/sentences. Your example if perfect to illustrate the reason why I don't want international characters in the language itself (and identifiers). 2020. 07. 03. 16:13 keltezéssel, Martin Frb via lazarus írta: > On 03/07/2020 14:55, Péter Gábor via

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Martin Frb via lazarus
On 03/07/2020 14:55, Péter Gábor via lazarus wrote: Hi! Then you must allow Cyrillic,d Arabic and so Chinese and other national and special characters to be used in identifiers. Worse, the same source may then compile or fail to compile depending on the locale. Pascal is case insensitive.

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Special via lazarus
Am 03.07.2020 um 14:55 schrieb Péter Gábor via lazarus: Hi! Then you must allow Cyrillic,d Arabic and so Chinese and other national and special characters to be used in identifiers. There was a thread about this issue on the list (or maybe on fpc's one) and (as I can remember) the conclusion

Re: [Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Péter Gábor via lazarus
Hi! Then you must allow Cyrillic,d Arabic and so Chinese and other national and special characters to be used in identifiers. There was a thread about this issue on the list (or maybe on fpc's one) and (as I can remember) the conclusion was that it's a bad idea. To keep source codes universally

[Lazarus] Proposal: Allow Umlaute and Accented Characters in Identifiers

2020-07-03 Thread Special via lazarus
Hi, we have many Delphi programs with identifiers containing parts like 'Köln' and 'Liège'. These programs we want to convert to Lazarus. Unfortunately, Lazarus (or FP) seems not to be able to use identifiers with umlaute and accents. Maybe the reason for this could be pure historical and

[Lazarus] Laz next release- Cocoa WS

2020-07-03 Thread Alexey Tor. via lazarus
IMO it's good to make Cocoa the default WS! Why? macOS is now all-64bit, so Carbon (old WS)+32bit apps cannot run (or run with a warning). Alexey Torgashin -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org

Re: [Lazarus] We are planning the next release: Lazarus 2.0.10

2020-07-03 Thread Mattias Gaertner via lazarus
On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 20:45:12 +0300 "Alexey Tor. via lazarus" wrote: >  >Cocoa (64bit, beta), > > Please move Cocoa to `release` state, it's ready.. Done. Mattias -- ___ lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org