Dimitri Smits schrieb:
what I'm worried more about is that there are open implementations of
the java specification (read: jvm) around. OK, they strive to be
api-compliant and implement all the interfaces of the entire JRE
libraries and do not tend to cherry-pick features/classes.
There exis
On 08/05/2012 22:12, Richard Mace wrote:
Hi All,
This question may have been asked several times before, so sorry if I
am repeating it.
When I am trying to debug, and I hover my mouse over a
MyObject.property, I get "MyObject has no component named property"
Am I missing something obvious? Do
Hi All,
This question may have been asked several times before, so sorry if I am
repeating it.
When I am trying to debug, and I hover my mouse over a MyObject.property, I
get "MyObject has no component named property"
Am I missing something obvious? Do I need to turn an option on?
Thanks in advanc
On 08/05/2012 21:31, Darius Blaszyk wrote:
Hi,
One of my frustrations with the IDE have been when debugging record or class
variables. The data is truncated to 255 characters and it's very difficult to
find the appropriate variable within the structure. I have now uploaded a patch
(http://bug
Andrew Brunner schrieb:
FPC and it's core design have been around prior
to Embarcadero's purchase of Delphi from Inprise. At the point of
purchase Embarcadero was responsible for objecting to FPC
and they could have avoided said purchase.
Both FPC and Lazarus predate Embarcadero's Delphi.
On 08/05/2012 21:31, Darius Blaszyk wrote:
Hi,
One of my frustrations with the IDE have been when debugging record or class
variables. The data is truncated to 255 characters and it's very difficult to
find the appropriate variable within the structure. I have now uploaded a patch
(http://bug
Hi,
One of my frustrations with the IDE have been when debugging record or class
variables. The data is truncated to 255 characters and it's very difficult to
find the appropriate variable within the structure. I have now uploaded a patch
(http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=21990) that adds
- Oorspronkelijk e-mail -
> FPC and it's core design have been around prior to Embarcadero's
> purchase of Delphi from Inprise. At the point of purchase
> Embarcadero was responsible for objecting to FPC
> and they could have avoided said purchase.
Andrew,
that same argument could be ma
>
> I wrote church, not christianism. That's a world of difference.
>
> I have no problems with individual christians and their belief.
>
>
>
That's perception at work. When I read that I had understood it as what
Michael has just asserted :-)
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On Tue, 8 May 2012, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:15 PM, wrote:
IP is much like the church and its universal truths in the middle ages. I
thought we got rid of those shackles, now we get other ones. Instead of
church, we have large corporations.
-1 please lea
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:15 PM, wrote:
> IP is much like the church and its universal truths in the middle ages. I
> thought we got rid of those shackles, now we get other ones. Instead of
> church, we have large corporations.
-1 please leave Christianism out of your rant.
If it wasn't for the
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys
wrote:
> Google purchased the initial developer of the software, Android Inc.,
> in 2005. Then Google later unveiled the Android distribution in 2007.
> Both events pre-date the Oracle purchase of Sun.
>
>
> The only thing left I can say is wait un
On 8 May 2012 15:21, Andrew Brunner wrote:
>
> Article April 2009 http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/018363
> Details specifically from Oracle what i've been trying to tell you.
Google purchased the initial developer of the software, Android Inc.,
in 2005. Then Google later unveiled the A
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:15 AM, wrote:
> Stealing IP ? That depends on your point of view.
>
Ownership is always a perspective issue. We all just try to carve out
ownership. Patents offer a way to convert work product into other things.
>
> My view is that IP itself is theft. The concept of
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys
wrote:
> You assumption seems wrong. Oracle bought Sun (which included the Java
> product) AFTER Android was created/released by Google. That still
> didn't stop Oracle from taking Google to court. As far as I understand
> it, if you bought a compa
On Tue, 8 May 2012, Andrew Brunner wrote:
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys
wrote:
On 8 May 2012 14:07, Andrew Brunner wrote:
Oracle is telling google that that it is UNACCEPTABLE for google to take
creative ownership over Java. This problem goes far beyond copying of
som
On 8 May 2012 14:52, Andrew Brunner wrote:
>
> I've never ran a check to see what is different in units.
I'm not referring to implementation (source code) - only the API and
functionality.
> Delphi is Windows ONLY.
Not any more. :) As of Delphi XE2 it officially supports Windows, Mac
OS X an
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys
wrote:
> On 8 May 2012 14:07, Andrew Brunner wrote:
> > Oracle is telling google that that it is UNACCEPTABLE for google to take
> > creative ownership over Java. This problem goes far beyond copying of
> some
> > API. Google as made and Oracle
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys
wrote:
> FPC and Lazarus are not interfacing with Delphi, they are cloning
> Delphi functionality and API [with some minor tweaks of there own],
> and making a competing product. As far as I can see, this is exactly
> what Google did with Java - an
On 8 May 2012 14:07, Andrew Brunner wrote:
> Oracle is telling google that that it is UNACCEPTABLE for google to take
> creative ownership over Java. This problem goes far beyond copying of some
> API. Google as made and Oracle product - and Oracle is not happy.
This applies exactly to FPC and
On 8-5-2012 14:07, Andrew Brunner wrote:
> Folllow the logic. This trial is about theft. It's not about the API.
> Having API files that include verbatim code issued by Oracle are issued
> under a pretense. That pretense is what binds users of Java code to
> the licencing of the API by Oracle.
>
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Santiago A. wrote:
>> So at least in EU it is totally legal.
> ... so far.
> There is a strong pressure on EU to sign ACTA.
> In fact, many countries in EU have signed ACTA bilaterally
> http://mashable.com/2012/01/27/22-eu-countries-ratify-acta-key-parliament-memb
Folllow the logic. This trial is about theft. It's not about the API.
Having API files that include verbatim code issued by Oracle are issued
under a pretense. That pretense is what binds users of Java code to
the licencing of the API by Oracle.
Oracle is telling google that that it is UNACCEPT
On 08/05/2012 10:00, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
>
>> In the last c't magazine I found an side-cut on the German
>> "Bundestrojaner", a spy software developed for the secret service:
>>
>> "Since the AV software is booted from a clean CD, and has full
>> control over th
On 2012-05-07 17:29:41 -0300, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
> On 2012-05-07 17:12:46 -0300, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
> > On 2012-05-07 16:59:06 -0300, Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
> > > Hi, I'm implementing a Copy to clipboard function to an application. It
> > > has to copy the contents of a TPaintBox's Canva
2012/5/8 Žilvinas Ledas :
> Hello all,
>
> relevant recent news is that EU court ruled that APIs and programming
> languages are not copyrightable:
> http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/05/02/229208/eu-court-rules-apis-programming-languages-not-copyrightable
>
> So at least in EU it is totally
El 08/05/2012 10:02, Žilvinas Ledas escribió:
> Hello all,
>
> relevant recent news is that EU court ruled that APIs and programming
> languages are not copyrightable:
> http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/05/02/229208/eu-court-rules-apis-programming-languages-not-copyrightable
>
> So at least
Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:01:45AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I don't know whether it should be treated as a candidate for an
extension to the sql-db API, since as far as I know there's something
comparable (implemented very differently) on Firebird but nothing el
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
In the last c't magazine I found an side-cut on the German
"Bundestrojaner", a spy software developed for the secret service:
"Since the AV software is booted from a clean CD, and has full control
over the machine, there is no disk space where a rootkit or other
s
Sven Barth wrote:
Superficially, Oracle can't wreck Linux since they sell an
implementation. However they also own Solaris, and since their high-end
kit works better with Solaris than with Linux my own feeling is that
they'd like more people to use it.
It's not about Oracle wrecking everyone,
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 8 May 2012 09:45, wrote:>> At worst it would
mean FPC/Lazarus cannot be used in the US.
Thinking about it further... I guess even if the judge rules thatAPI's are
copyrightable in the US, Embarcadero would have a hard timecoming after the FPC
project because
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:01:45AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> I don't know whether it should be treated as a candidate for an
> extension to the sql-db API, since as far as I know there's something
> comparable (implemented very differently) on Firebird but nothing else.
If it is table or
Am 08.05.2012 10:15, schrieb Mark Morgan Lloyd:
Well, not verbatim. There are differences.
Now, if he so judges, that would mean the end of the wine, samba and
many other open or closed source projects.
I suspect that this would be taken to a higher court by the FSF and
other organisations as R
On 8 May 2012 09:45, wrote:
>
> At worst it would mean FPC/Lazarus cannot be used in the US.
Thinking about it further... I guess even if the judge rules that
API's are copyrightable in the US, Embarcadero would have a hard time
coming after the FPC project because the latest Delphi ships w
michael.vancann...@wisa.be schrieb:
Now, if he so judges, that would mean the end of the wine, samba and
many other open or closed source projects.
Why that?
I suspect that this would be taken to a higher court by the FSF and
other organisations as Redhat, Linux.org.
They would all have t
michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote:
On Tue, 8 May 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Hi,
I'm following the trial between Oracle vs Google and wondered about
the following... Judge Alsup told the jury to assume API's are
copyrightable - something Alsup still has to determine later during
trial. Now i
On 8 May 2012 10:02, Žilvinas Ledas wrote:
>
> So at least in EU it is totally legal.
Thanks for the link, I'll read that article now.
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On 8 May 2012 09:45, wrote:
>
> Now, if he so judges, that would mean the end of the wine, samba and many
> other open or closed source projects.
Indeed, it will have one hell of a knock-on effect.
> In each case, we are not US-based; a ruling by a US judge does not affect
> us. At worst it w
On Tue, 8 May 2012, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
Hi, does sql-db allows to capture PostgreSql notify events?. If yes,
how?.
Indirectly. You have to set it up using the TPQConnection.Handle since this
has long-term persistence, and have to make direct API calls *not*
Ex
Hello all,
relevant recent news is that EU court ruled that APIs and programming
languages are not copyrightable:
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/05/02/229208/eu-court-rules-apis-programming-languages-not-copyrightable
So at least in EU it is totally legal.
Regards,
Žilvinas
On 201
Leonardo M. Ramé wrote:
Hi, does sql-db allows to capture PostgreSql notify events?. If yes,
how?.
Indirectly. You have to set it up using the TPQConnection.Handle since
this has long-term persistence, and have to make direct API calls *not*
ExecuteDirect() since that uses a temporary handle.
On 8-5-2012 9:16, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm following the trial between Oracle vs Google and wondered about
> the following... Judge Alsup told the jury to assume API's are
> copyrightable - something Alsup still has to determine later during
> trial. Now if he does rule that API's ar
On Tue, 8 May 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Hi,
I'm following the trial between Oracle vs Google and wondered about
the following... Judge Alsup told the jury to assume API's are
copyrightable - something Alsup still has to determine later during
trial. Now if he does rule that API's are cop
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb:
Hi,
I'm following the trial between Oracle vs Google and wondered about
the following... Judge Alsup told the jury to assume API's are
copyrightable - something Alsup still has to determine later during
trial. Now if he does rule that API's are copyrightable, how will
Hi,
I'm following the trial between Oracle vs Google and wondered about
the following... Judge Alsup told the jury to assume API's are
copyrightable - something Alsup still has to determine later during
trial. Now if he does rule that API's are copyrightable, how will this
affect the Lazarus and F
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