Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 06:41, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > I don't know. Does DocView work nicely with screen readers? I think that > is what ubos meant. Screen Reader support is on my fpGUI to do list, but just not a high priority (unfortunately). > Note: fpdoc can also generate plain html files from the

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-20 19:58, Anthony Walter wrote: > The benefit of online docs ... > > Anyone can access them without installing a thing (assuming people have a > web browser, which everyone does). Unless your internet goes down... like what happened to me on Thursday. And I live in a first world countr

Re: [Lazarus] UPDATED: Re: documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-20 23:47, Marco van de Voort wrote: > > P.s. I used script build_lcl_chm.sh, not buildchm.sh So what did you change? fpdoc and the *.lpr in Lazarus repository (docs/html/ directory)? As noted in a message a few days ago, I couldn't build any LCL docs. I wanted to supply and INF version

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-20 20:05, Marco van de Voort wrote: > The primary use of SDK information is to access them using context > information from within the IDE. In the matching version of course. "matching version" is a very good point. Currently Lazarus totally fails that point. You can download a 0.9.30.4

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

Maybe there is a bit of misunderstanding. By accessibility I meant usage with screen reader. HTML can be read in browser. Contrary to totally graphical viewer I thought about this situation: There was documentation in HTML for years. Now something "bad" happens and one will be totally dependent

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

@Lubos: I think I understood you :) On 21-4-2013 11:02, Lubos Pintes wrote: > Maybe there is a bit of misunderstanding. > By accessibility I meant usage with screen reader. HTML can be read in > browser. Contrary to totally graphical viewer Understood. > I didn't want to be offensive. Orto critic

Re: [Lazarus] UPDATED: Re: documentation snapshot

On 21-4-2013 0:47, Marco van de Voort wrote: > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 05:27:29PM +0200, Marco van de Voort wrote: > The snapshot above was updated. Most interpackage hyperlinks work again, > and the inheritance subpages > (the [properties (by name)] links on each class page) are now filled >

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 10:02, Lubos Pintes wrote: > Maybe there is a bit of misunderstanding. No problem, I didn't know by "totally inaccessible" you meant for screen readers. fpdoc supports many output formats, so in no way are you limited to just INF, PDF etc. Make no mistake, I do see the usefulness of

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 10:13, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > Had a look at the sourceforge site for Lazarus but couldn't find any > pregenerated HTML docs... except old ones for Laz 0.9.30.4: With fpGUI you have the generated INF files for each release. There is also online HTML versions for each release. h

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2013-04-20 19:58, Anthony Walter wrote: The benefit of online docs ... Anyone can access them without installing a thing (assuming people have a web browser, which everyone does). Unless your internet goes down... like what happened to me on Thursday. And I live in

Re: [Lazarus] Can not run in debug mode for WinCe

On 21.04.2013 02:12, GREP wrote: Hi I have tried (and read) all I could till now, but I haven't succeded Please, help. The app builds fine and runs fine in the WM 6.1 emulator. But I cannot run it from Lazarus. These are my project options

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 09:23:30AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > > Unless your internet goes down... like what happened to me on Thursday. > > And I live in a first world country (finally) - but not even such > > countries are immune to internet outages. > > First world? I thought you were in

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 07:41:08AM +0200, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > >> So please, please, no something "proprietary". > Note: fpdoc can also generate plain html files from the fpdoc sources if > told to do so, so you can generate not only CHM,PDF,INF but also HTML > and I believe TeX. Of cours

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 21-4-2013 13:05, Marco van de Voort wrote: > Anyway, can we _please_ all agree that we need both online and offline docs. > I think the proponents of online docs better work on improving the > online experience, rather than declare it perfect ex ante. Only if we also agree that the Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] UPDATED: Re: documentation snapshot

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 09:28:41AM +0100, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 2013-04-20 23:47, Marco van de Voort wrote: > > > > P.s. I used script build_lcl_chm.sh, not buildchm.sh > > So what did you change? fpdoc and the *.lpr in Lazarus repository > (docs/html/ directory)? As noted in a message a

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 01:43:21PM +0200, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > > Anyway, can we _please_ all agree that we need both online and offline docs. > > I think the proponents of online docs better work on improving the > > online experience, rather than declare it perfect ex ante. > > Only if w

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 21-4-2013 13:53, Marco van de Voort wrote: > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 01:43:21PM +0200, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > IMHO the IDE docs should be taken offline (or readonly), and quickly > reformed to some master format, and managed in SVN, versioned, like the rest > of the docs. Good idea; as lon

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

Marco van de Voort wrote: On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 09:23:30AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Unless your internet goes down... like what happened to me on Thursday. And I live in a first world country (finally) - but not even such countries are immune to internet outages. First world? I thought

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 02:04:12PM +0200, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > > IMHO the IDE docs should be taken offline (or readonly), and quickly > > reformed to some master format, and managed in SVN, versioned, like the rest > > of the docs. > Good idea; as long as they can be as easily edited as on

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot (BUILD ERRORS)

I've concatenated all warnings and errors in a log: http://www.stack.nl/~marcov/docbuilderrors.txt Some remarks: - Some of it might be due 2.6.x <-> trunk issues though. (bytesof?) - There seems to be a problem with enumtypes. Many errors are enum values - Importing operators seems to go wrong

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 10:23, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > First world? I thought you were in England? ** > ** BT's backbone, which most ISPs use for ADSL, is susceptible to > overnight outages. Be, which some use as an alternative, is more I am, and use VirginMedia. There uptime in my area has been pretty

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 10:23, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: >> And I live in a first world country (finally) - but not even such >> countries are immune to internet outages. > > First world? I thought you were in England? ** I forgot to mention in my previous reply. No matter how reliable or unreliable your i

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 12:43, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > > Only if we also agree that the Lazarus default offline docs format is > chm (not inf), Can you please reference where it states that? ;-) As far as I know the Lazarus project is reluctant to decide on any offline help format. Lazarus (Help -> Onl

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 12:53, Marco van de Voort wrote: > IMHO the IDE docs should be taken offline (or readonly), and quickly > reformed to some master format, and managed in SVN, versioned, like the rest > of the docs. I can't agree more. > and provide the LCL one as a courtesy. Same here. Also why I

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 21-4-2013 16:29, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 2013-04-21 12:43, Reinier Olislagers wrote: >> >> Only if we also agree that the Lazarus default offline docs format is >> chm (not inf), > > Can you please reference where it states that? ;-) Run e.g. the official Windows installer. Open Lazarus,

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 15:38, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > Run e.g. the official Windows installer. Open Lazarus, go to a keyword, > press F1; alternatively just click Help. See the results. just because some develop spammed the mailing list enough, that it now automatically builds LHelp. That solution only

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 21-4-2013 16:50, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 2013-04-21 15:38, Reinier Olislagers wrote: >> Run e.g. the official Windows installer. Open Lazarus, go to a keyword, >> press F1; alternatively just click Help. See the results. > Anyway, lets just agree to disagree, on whatever it is we are suppo

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 21 April 2013 15:54, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > On 21-4-2013 16:50, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > On 2013-04-21 15:38, Reinier Olislagers wrote: > >> Run e.g. the official Windows installer. Open Lazarus, go to a keyword, > >> press F1; alternatively just click Help. See the results. > > Anyway

Re: [Lazarus] LazReport Band.name patch

On February 25 I sent you a small patch to fix the band.name issue. I've never got any feedback, and, as of today, I don't see the patch in trunk. Did you decide to reject the patch, or you didn't get it? Giuliano -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Can not run in debug mode for WinCe

Mayne there is similar problem in message list, was solved by setting Debug Info to "Auto", and all packages to "Auto", try it. On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 3:12 AM, GREP wrote: > Hi > I have tried (and read) all I could till now, but I haven't succeded > Please, help. > The app builds fine and r

Re: [Lazarus] LazReport Band.name patch

21.04.2013 19:37, Giuliano Colla пишет: On February 25 I sent you a small patch to fix the band.name issue. I've never got any feedback, and, as of today, I don't see the patch in trunk. Did you decide to reject the patch, or you didn't get it? You really should create bug report with this patc

Re: [Lazarus] LazReport Band.name patch

Il 21/04/2013 17:52, Maxim Ganetsky ha scritto: 21.04.2013 19:37, Giuliano Colla пишет: On February 25 I sent you a small patch to fix the band.name issue. I've never got any feedback, and, as of today, I don't see the patch in trunk. Did you decide to reject the patch, or you didn't get it? Y

Re: [Lazarus] New bug with Configure Lazarus IDE?

On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 15:10:06 -0400 Anthony Walter wrote: > I was testing fpcup on a fresh install of Windows and everything seemed to > build okay, but when I opened lazarus for the first time and tried to set > paths, I got the following message with the FPC Sources tab: > > "Warning: Found ver

Re: [Lazarus] Weird GTK TGroupBox bug

Il 07/03/2013 17:44, Giuliano Colla ha scritto: I've stumbled against a rather weird bug in TGroupBox with GTK2 WS. If a TGroupBox gets partly covered by another window (as it may happen with the drop-down of a TComboBox, or simply by moving another window over it), and then uncovered, not all

Re: [Lazarus] documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 16:01, Frank Church wrote: > advantage of the intermittent sunshine. LOL.You'll learn to appreciate that > better, Graeme !! Having kids one is up early every day. Already been out Trikking for an hour this morning, did some gardening, fixed the fish pond, help my son with home work.

Re: [Lazarus] LazReport Band.name patch

Il 21/04/2013 17:52, Maxim Ganetsky ha scritto: 21.04.2013 19:37, Giuliano Colla пишет: On February 25 I sent you a small patch to fix the band.name issue. I've never got any feedback, and, as of today, I don't see the patch in trunk. Did you decide to reject the patch, or you didn't get it? Y

Re: [Lazarus] New bug with Configure Lazarus IDE?

On 20/04/13 22:10, Anthony Walter wrote: I was testing fpcup on a fresh install of Windows and everything seemed to build okay, but when I opened lazarus for the first time and tried to set paths, I got the following message with the FPC Sources tab: "Warning: Found version ..3, expect 2.6.3."

Re: [Lazarus] UPDATED: Re: documentation snapshot

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 01:45:19PM +0200, Marco van de Voort wrote: > In my case the problems were twofold: > > - In fcl-pastree, classes have been separated into baseclasses and > descendents. However the backend code still checks like aclass.classtype= >TSomeClass, but TSomeClass now also

Re: [Lazarus] New bug with Configure Lazarus IDE?

On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:50:46 +0300 patspiper wrote: > On 20/04/13 22:10, Anthony Walter wrote: > > I was testing fpcup on a fresh install of Windows and everything > > seemed to build okay, but when I opened lazarus for the first time and > > tried to set paths, I got the following message with

Re: [Lazarus] UPDATED: Re: documentation snapshot

On 2013-04-21 21:19, Marco van de Voort wrote: > This specially affects shortdescriptions, since they need the module to > resolve, and is often called with .getmodule as argument. I know the HTML backend has very different code to the Linear output writers (Latex, IPF, RTF etc). I don't have prob

[Lazarus] Strange behaviour in debugging mode for WM 6.1

Hi I do not know why this happens. I launch WM 6.1 with the following options

Re: [Lazarus] New bug with Configure Lazarus IDE?

Just a quick question. Supposing I don't have fpc/lazarus sources or don't want to get them just yet, what is an easy way to browse recent commits to svn? Such that you can see who updated what and when, maybe with commit comments as well as the diffs? -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] New bug with Configure Lazarus IDE?

On 4/22/13, Anthony Walter wrote: > Supposing I don't have fpc/lazarus sources or don't > want to get them just yet, what is an easy way to browse recent commits to > svn? Such that you can see who updated what and when, maybe with commit > comments as well as the diffs? You can use the SVN web i