Re: [Lazarus] IDE problems - FIXED

2013-11-28 Thread Martin Frb
On 28/11/2013 08:38, brian wrote: On 11/26/2013 04:02 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Run diff (e.g. kdiff3) on the old and new configuration files. Report back. Sorry for the delayed reply, now programming is just a hobby, my wife has other ideas about how I should spend my time... :( Anyway,

[Lazarus] Bug in IDE (onActive - SetFocus)

2013-11-28 Thread Junior
Good morning all Sorry, my English is bad. With the Lazarus IDE opened, putting the focus outside the IDE, and upon returning, the code editor window it will remain on top of the Form. The most aggravating problem is when a component is in the form and clicking the Object Inspector to change t

Re: [Lazarus] Bug in IDE (onActive - SetFocus)

2013-11-28 Thread Junior
correction: "source" or "color" property => "font" or "color" property Em 28-11-2013 07:51, Junior escreveu: Good morning all Sorry, my English is bad. With the Lazarus IDE opened, putting the focus outside the IDE, and upon returning, the code editor window it will remain on top of the Form.

Re: [Lazarus] IDE problems - FIXED

2013-11-28 Thread brian
On 11/28/2013 05:08 AM, Martin Frb wrote: On 28/11/2013 08:38, brian wrote: On 11/26/2013 04:02 AM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Run diff (e.g. kdiff3) on the old and new configuration files. Report back. Sorry for the delayed reply, now programming is just a hobby, my wife has other ideas about

[Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Santiago A.
It's a little off-topic, but as the comment was asking about pascal and lazarus, I will put it here: In a Spanish blog, a fresh graduated asked about what programming languages should learn. People post their opinions, and someone asked "What about delphi/object-pascal/freepascal/lazarus? Nobody h

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 02:18:06PM +0100, Santiago A. wrote: > Perhaps Lazarus should start thinking about a widget "html+javascript" > and prioritize it. Even if I would agree you on the general direction, this would be dumb IMHO, since compatability of such thing would be low and the LCL struc

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Santiago A. wrote: It's a little off-topic, but as the comment was asking about pascal and lazarus, I will put it here: In a Spanish blog, a fresh graduated asked about what programming languages should learn. People post their opinions, and someone asked "What about delp

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Andrew Brunner
I agree 100%. I have spent the last 4 years or so in development of such a system. Aurawin includes virtual desktop platform that is open source. It's lacking a cloud development environment. Presently, all application development is done via the CMS system via the GUI console. The back-e

[Lazarus] Setting TextLineBreakStyle in TMemo

2013-11-28 Thread Leonardo M . Ramé
Hi, I need to save the contents of a TMemo to a text file with CRLF line endings. By default, the TStrings.TextLineBreakStyle is platform dependent, as mentioned in http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/rtl/classes/tstrings.textlinebreakstyle.html: On FormCreate, I'm setting myMemo.Lines.TextLineBr

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Michael Schnell
On 11/28/2013 02:18 PM, Santiago A. wrote: Perhaps Lazarus should start thinking about a widget "html+javascript" Some years ago I did some (limited) testing on that behalf, but gave up after some days, seeing that the necessary effort is not limited at all. I do hope that Michael v C is more s

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Michael Schnell wrote: On 11/28/2013 02:18 PM, Santiago A. wrote: Perhaps Lazarus should start thinking about a widget "html+javascript" Some years ago I did some (limited) testing on that behalf, but gave up after some days, seeing that the necessary effort is not limit

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Dmitry Boyarintsev
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Santiago A. wrote: > Here is an example: A friend of mine works for a company that has been > hired by a bank to rebuild the workstation software. Now client are > running on XP and the software is written in .NET (and VB4!!!). The are > moving to client softwar

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: On 11/28/2013 02:18 PM, Santiago A. wrote: Perhaps Lazarus should start thinking about a widget "html+javascript" Some years ago I did some (limited) testing on that behalf, but gave up after some days, seeing that the necessary effort is not limited at all. I do hope th

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread silvioprog
2013/11/28 Michael Van Canneyt > > On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Michael Schnell wrote: > > On 11/28/2013 02:18 PM, Santiago A. wrote: >> >>> Perhaps Lazarus should start thinking about a widget "html+javascript" >>> >> Some years ago I did some (limited) testing on that behalf, but gave up >> after some

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Dmitry Boyarintsev
The sad thing about HTML that it is destroying itself. A web-framework consists of probably 4 tags: (everything is a div) (just for browser look) (and yes, every other control is just a div, rather than an input) is to be replace by Forms are being used just as an ad-hoc data sending mechanism

[Lazarus] Need to test code fragment on "real" ARM hardware.

2013-11-28 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Does anybody have Debian or similar running on real ARM hardware, i.e. specifically not a QEMU emulation? If so could you test a code fragment for me? -- Mark Morgan Lloyd markMLl .AT. telemetry.co .DOT. uk [Opinions above are the author's, not those of his employers or colleagues] -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Andrew Brunner
That's over-simplifying the landscape. There is so much tweaking that has to happen to make apps have a similar "look and feel" across all HTML devices. Spacial adaptations need to be considered as well. HTML is not destroying itself. I still use raw text to write HTML5 apps. If you organi

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Dmitry Boyarintsev
* I agree on "simplification" but not "over" On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Dmitry Boyarintsev < skalogryz.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote: > >> That's over-simplifying the landscape. There is so much tweaking that >> has to happen to make app

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Dmitry Boyarintsev
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote: > That's over-simplifying the landscape. There is so much tweaking that has > to happen to make apps have a similar "look and feel" across all HTML > devices. Spacial adaptations need to be considered as well. > Is it over-simplification?

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Andrew Brunner
On 11/28/2013 11:31 AM, Dmitry Boyarintsev wrote: Here's QNAP (mentioned earlier) web-interface demo: http://www.qnap.com/en/?lang=en&sn=934 Just login and look to the code of the page ;) Ooops, missed that one. I really wanna get the server for ARM compiled and advertise that

Re: [Lazarus] Need to test code fragment on "real" ARM hardware.

2013-11-28 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Does anybody have Debian or similar running on real ARM hardware, i.e. specifically not a QEMU emulation? If so could you test a code fragment for me? Yes, I have a raspberry and an odroid. Michael. --

Re: [Lazarus] Need to test code fragment on "real" ARM hardware.

2013-11-28 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Does anybody have Debian or similar running on real ARM hardware, i.e. specifically not a QEMU emulation? If so could you test a code fragment for me? Yes, I have a raspberry and an odroid. You should have mail off-l

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Mark Morgan Lloyd schrieb: If you're designing a headless system like a NAS, then the terminal type that you can rely on people having is pretty limited: an HTML browser or a VT-100 terminal (including telnet). ACK Once you're talking about an app that runs on the desktop or handheld system

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Santi
El 28/11/13 17:39, Dmitry Boyarintsev escribió: > Even if LCL will start "web target" today, it will be 10 years later > that LCL can be used without problems. If that's is the schedule, nothing makes sense. > Since everyone else is switching to "web frameworks", Lazarus should > stick to OS nativi

Re: [Lazarus] The future of desktop

2013-11-28 Thread Dmitry Boyarintsev
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Santi wrote: > > Is LCL the only "native controls" cross-platform framework left? > > Everyone else are now "custom drawn" (Qt and Gnome) or not cross > > platform at all. > I don't want to use Lazarus because it is the last defender of "Native > controls" against