On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys
wrote:
> On 1 February 2010 12:07, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>> and new Docview binaries too, and make those available on SourceForge
>> downloads.
>
> Thinking about it, maybe I should stop using SourceForge and move to
> someone like BerliOS which
On 1 February 2010 12:07, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> and new Docview binaries too, and make those available on SourceForge
> downloads.
Thinking about it, maybe I should stop using SourceForge and move to
someone like BerliOS which is based outside America - or start hosting
my own projects on my
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
>
> Good news. When can I expect the sources for that ?
fpdoc changes around mid Feb. I'll create a compiled INF of FPC Lang Ref
and new Docview binaries too, and make those available on SourceForge
downloads.
I meant to complete the new fpdoc IPF writer in my holidays
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Lee Jenkins wrote:
Personally, I've come to like Adobe's LiveDocs format which seems to be a hybrid
of Wiki and TOC oriented format and its indexed by google making searches easy
and fast.
Anyone else care for this kind of format?
No. :-)
I wou
Lee Jenkins wrote:
>
> Personally, I've come to like Adobe's LiveDocs format which seems to be a
> hybrid
> of Wiki and TOC oriented format and its indexed by google making searches
> easy
> and fast.
>
> Anyone else care for this kind of format?
No. :-)
I would much prefer a off-line docume
Marco van de Voort schrieb:
I also had a hard time starting with Lazarus/Free Pascal and
it's still not easy to find information.
Do realize though that it is the constant change in the project that causes
this mostly. You'd need to revise the whole detailed website and all docs
every 3 month
Hans-Peter Diettrich schreef:
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb:
Why don't you improve the wiki then? The idea is that people can
independently find what they think needs improvement and improve it.
I only propagate the comment of an user. Instructions about installation
IMO should be acces
Nice screenshot Marc. :-)
2010/1/30 Marc Weustink :
>> * What is Lazarus?
>
> About lazarus ?
I think this needs higher visibility than a small link. Some of that
content should really be on the front page.
>> * Where can I documentation (IDE & LCL)?
>
> Wiki ?
Well, that's not very obvious
Andreas Schneider wrote:
Am Freitag 29 Januar 2010 23:36:02 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich:
IMO a good add-on to the "Lazarus is invisible?" thread.
I think a great problem for many of those people in this thread comes from the
fact that (as they state) try it from time to time. That means, th
Marc Weustink schrieb:
Developing software isn't about just clicking somewhere. It's also about
knowing where to find your info.
Reading comments like yours makes me understand why many people find
Lazarus unusable :-(
Currently it's impossible to find the information about the first steps
On 1/30/10, Marc Weustink wrote:
> > * What is Lazarus?
> About lazarus ?
> > * Where can I documentation (IDE & LCL)?
> Wiki ?
> > * Where can I get installation/setup instructions?
> > * Where can I download it from?
> Download ?
All those links are in the (tiny) menu on the left side
Andrew Brunner wrote:
IMO if you MUST know where to look for information regarding FPC/Lazarus.
I think a birds-eye view of "stuff" should be easily accessible and intuitive.
Unfortunately, the complicated nature of this universal development
tool requires much content management technology to r
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I am simple pointing out the
obvious faults of the current "first port of call" website new users
get when they want to know about the Lazarus project. Why make it so
difficult for new users?
@all:
Enough talking and let's do the real work. FPC/Lazarus is
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 04:11:59PM +0100, J?rgen Hestermann wrote:
> > Developing software isn't about just clicking somewhere. It's also about
> > knowing where to find your info.
>
> Well, although I see why it is how it is I have to fully agree with Graeme
> regarding the very confusing web p
Developing software isn't about just clicking somewhere. It's also about
knowing where to find your info.
Well, although I see why it is how it is I have to fully agree with Graeme
regarding the very confusing web pages and the lack of structured information.
I know that it's easy said while no
Vincent Snijders schrieb:
I must be a very experienced OS project user: I just look for a download
link, then I can choose windows 32 bits, and a version (not the old
releases), and I get an exe. What to do with it? Run it, and Lazarus
installs.
This was not the problem. In fact it's impossi
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb:
Why don't you improve the wiki then? The idea is that people can
independently find what they think needs improvement and improve it.
I only propagate the comment of an user. Instructions about installation
IMO should be accessible from the start page, not
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 30 January 2010 12:54, Vincent Snijders wrote:
The main page contains links to Downloads and Mailing list information on
prominent places. AFAIK the Lazarus team doesn't have web designer, and that
shows.
A product website firstly gives a bit of summary information
On 30 January 2010 13:55, Florian Klaempfl wrote:
>
> Lazarus comes with FPC?
Don't confuse Windows only features, with other platforms. What about
Mac, FreeBSD, Linux users? FPC doesn't come with those.
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On 30 January 2010 12:54, Vincent Snijders wrote:
>
> The main page contains links to Downloads and Mailing list information on
> prominent places. AFAIK the Lazarus team doesn't have web designer, and that
> shows.
A product website firstly gives a bit of summary information. This
includes thing
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 07:26:31PM -0600, Andrew Brunner wrote:
>
> Take MSDN for example, they have a great system, index, organized, and
> presentable to the masses. Could someone model that? I envision
> content in the main body, tabs for platform specific notes.
I think it is more important
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys
wrote:
> Felipe, I think this is a catch-22 situation. If you don't know how to
> install FPC and Lazarus or know how to user Lazarus, there is NO way
> that person will be able to improve the wiki. :-(
I had understood that the writer do knows h
Am Freitag 29 Januar 2010 23:36:02 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich:
> IMO a good add-on to the "Lazarus is invisible?" thread.
>
I think a great problem for many of those people in this thread comes from the
fact that (as they state) try it from time to time. That means, that they
probably have en
Juha Manninen schrieb:
> 1. Mention about FPC and a link for downloading and installing it. Now there
> is a link to Free Pascal but its relation to Lazarus is not obvious to a
> beginner.
Lazarus comes with FPC?
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Hello.
> I must be a very experienced OS project user: I just look for a download
> link, then I can choose windows 32 bits, and a version (not the old
> releases), and I get an exe. What to do with it? Run it, and Lazarus
> installs.
The fact is that basic info for beginners is spread around.
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef:
On 30 January 2010 03:26, Andrew Brunner wrote:
IMO if you MUST know where to look for information regarding FPC/Lazarus.
I think a birds-eye view of "stuff" should be easily accessible and intuitive.
Correct, but the FIRST problem is the Lazarus website. It's NOT
On 30 January 2010 03:26, Andrew Brunner wrote:
> IMO if you MUST know where to look for information regarding FPC/Lazarus.
> I think a birds-eye view of "stuff" should be easily accessible and intuitive.
>
Correct, but the FIRST problem is the Lazarus website. It's NOT a
website at all, but simp
On 30 January 2010 02:35, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
wrote:
> Why don't you improve the wiki then? The idea is that people can
> independently find what they think needs improvement and improve it.
Felipe, I think this is a catch-22 situation. If you don't know how to
install FPC and Lazarus or
Hans-Peter Diettrich schreef:
IMO a good add-on to the "Lazarus is invisible?" thread.
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
[snip]
DoDi, your attitude does not help the Lazarus image. Lazarus, like many
(most?) OS projects *is* difficult to understand when looking through the
eyes of a person not y
IMO a good add-on to the "Lazarus is invisible?" thread.
While I agree with the points that Lazarus need better documentations,
I think those people in that forum are spoil programmers. I also don't
understand why they are so defensive against Lazarus.
I remember the first time I found Laz
IMO if you MUST know where to look for information regarding FPC/Lazarus.
I think a birds-eye view of "stuff" should be easily accessible and intuitive.
Unfortunately, the complicated nature of this universal development
tool requires much content management technology to resolve
(comparably) beca
Why don't you improve the wiki then? The idea is that people can
independently find what they think needs improvement and improve it.
thanks,
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On 1/29/2010 6:05 PM, Gustavo Enrique Jimenez wrote:
Just google "linux pascal compiler". Period.
And that accomplishes what, exactly?
Does not seem to relate to the current discussion at all.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top
Hi all:
Just google "linux pascal compiler". Period.
Gustavo
2010/1/29 Hans-Peter Diettrich :
> IMO a good add-on to the "Lazarus is invisible?" thread.
>
>
> Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
>>[snip]
>
> DoDi, your attitude does not help the Lazarus image. Lazarus, like many
> (most?) OS projects *
IMO a good add-on to the "Lazarus is invisible?" thread.
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Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
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DoDi, your attitude does not help the Lazarus image. Lazarus, like many
(most?) OS projects *is* difficult to understand when looking through the
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