Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-21 Thread Lukasz Sokol
On 20/07/2011 10:20, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 07/20/2011 10:29 AM, Henry Vermaak wrote: >> [...] > >> Is there a time limit for doing such things? > > There is no time limit as far as I know, though I'm not 100% sure. > > IIRC, deletion of post only possible until a reply is posted to it

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-20 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 07/20/2011 10:29 AM, Henry Vermaak wrote: > > How can you have accountable discussions when people can delete their > posts? Viewing the discussion as a tree structure; replies to a specific deleted post will simply move up one level. Some NNTP servers and clients also support the "replace pos

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-20 Thread Henry Vermaak
On 20 July 2011 07:20, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 07/19/2011 06:05 PM, waldo kitty wrote: running - so there should be a problem with the current fpGUI (which uses X11 directly) >>> >>> Typo alert. That should read: "...so there shouldn't be a problem..." >> >> that's what i thought..

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 07/19/2011 06:05 PM, waldo kitty wrote: >>> running - so there should be a problem with the current fpGUI (which >>> uses X11 directly) >> >> Typo alert. That should read: "...so there shouldn't be a problem..." > > that's what i thought... please ignore my last :? This is when I miss NNTP ne

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-19 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/18/2011 05:36, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 07/18/2011 11:13 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: running - so there should be a problem with the current fpGUI (which uses X11 directly) Typo alert. That should read: "...so there shouldn't be a problem..." that's what i thought... please ignore m

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-19 Thread waldo kitty
On 7/18/2011 05:13, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 07/14/2011 03:45 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: such a way as to not antagonise the rest of the industry) I wonder what effect it would have on things like fpGUI which bypass the popular widget sets? If Wayland actually takes off, then I'll obvious

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-19 Thread Michael Schnell
On 07/18/2011 04:35 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Michael Schnell wrote: The plan is to remotely attach to a running program and not to start a program remotely. So I suppose remote X is not an option. In that specific case I think I'd consider splitting the "daemon" and "UI" apart, and conne

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: The plan is to remotely attach to a running program and not to start a program remotely. So I suppose remote X is not an option. In that specific case I think I'd consider splitting the "daemon" and "UI" apart, and connecting between them with something like XML conveye

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Paul Breneman
Graeme, Paul Breneman has even made a small FPC cross-compilation distribution of FPC & fpGUI targeting WinCE on ARM devices, in a small 2-5MB download. I'm pretty sure something similar could be created for targeting Linux embedded devices too. http://www.turbocontrol.com/helloworld.htm I'

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Michael Schnell
On 07/18/2011 11:23 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: I have heard of quite a few developers using fpGUI directly (not via the LCL-fpGUI widgetset which is still in Alpha state) on embedded devices - with great success. They reported that the executables are smaller than LCL equivalents, apps use less

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 07/18/2011 11:13 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > running - so there should be a problem with the current fpGUI (which > uses X11 directly) Typo alert. That should read: "...so there shouldn't be a problem..." Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free P

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 07/14/2011 02:37 PM, Roberto P. wrote: > > Though I can't help with main question about the RAM needs, I dare > adding to your w.s. list fpGUI. > I would consider it for an embedded platform and I think it supports X11. I have heard of quite a few developers using fpGUI directly (not via the L

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 07/14/2011 02:47 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: > Of course fpGUI is my top desire on that behalf, but unfortunately it's > not yet as perfect with thread synchronization as GTK2 is Please note Michael Schnell is ONLY referring to the LCL-fpGUI widgetset. If you use fpGUI directly (no LCL involved

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 07/14/2011 03:45 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > such a way as to not antagonise the rest of the industry) I wonder what > effect it would have on things like fpGUI which bypass the popular > widget sets? If Wayland actually takes off, then I'll obviously implement a Wayland backend for fpGUI

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Michael Schnell
On 07/14/2011 10:29 PM, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote: I successfully tried the GTK+ on DirectFB ( http://directfb.org/wiki/index.php/Projects:GTK_on_DirectFB ) with gumstix, but not for production use. ( From their site "The GTK on DirectFB (shortly GTK-DFB from now on) project consists in

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Michael Schnell
On 07/15/2011 07:51 PM, Bernd wrote: There is also NX (freenx) I understand that, even if reconnecting is possible, NX needs to start the applications remotely (as children of the desktop created by NX). As this is for monitoring deeply embedded Gadgets from time to time, this is not an option

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-18 Thread Michael Schnell
On 07/14/2011 02:37 PM, Roberto P. wrote: I would consider it for an embedded platform and I think it supports X11. The final goal is porting a huge Delphi program. AFAIK fpGUI still lacks several visual Components the Delphi VXL provides. So I would need to add them (while extending fpGUI mak

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-15 Thread Bernd
2011/7/14 Michael Schnell : > The plan is to remotely attach to a running program and not to start a > program remotely. So I suppose remote X is not an option. There is also NX (freenx) which behaves very similar to Microsoft RDP/Terminalserver (except that it uses X instead). You can disconnect

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-15 Thread Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis
Στις 14/7/2011 3:17 μμ, ο/η Michael Schnell έγραψε: The controller (TI AM1808) does have graphics hardware, but I don't suppose that this makes much difference. What (free) Widget set should be used ? I successfully tried the GTK+ on DirectFB ( http://directfb.org/wiki/index.php/Projects:GTK

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: On 07/14/2011 03:39 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Watch out here: I believe that there's some form of bug in (at least some variants of) VNC which prevents it working on ARM. Remember that you can also tunnel X over SSH. Hmmm. I did not yet hear of problems of VNC on AR

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-14 Thread Michael Schnell
On 07/14/2011 03:39 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Watch out here: I believe that there's some form of bug in (at least some variants of) VNC which prevents it working on ARM. Remember that you can also tunnel X over SSH. Hmmm. I did not yet hear of problems of VNC on ARM. Maybe this is limite

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-14 Thread Michael Schnell
On 07/14/2011 03:45 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I've had enough success with it to be generally impressed, would be nice if it were sufficiently mature to be an option for the Lazarus IDE. +1 I suppose Graemes 1st priority is the stand alone Version rather than the Lazarus integration. I

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Roberto P. wrote: I suppose we will need to use some Widget Set (QT ?, GKT ?) and X11 Server, even though the GUI should only be visible via VNC via TCP/IP. Though I can't help with main question about the RAM needs, I dare adding to your w.s. list fpGUI. I would consider it for an embedded p

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-14 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Michael Schnell wrote: Hi Experts, We are designing a controller PCB using Linux on an ARM CPU. We would like to run Lazarus generated programs with a GUI on this hardware. Now we would like to know how much RAM is necessary (besides the "Business Logic" variables the program uses). I sup

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-14 Thread Michael Schnell
On 07/14/2011 02:37 PM, Roberto P. wrote: Though I can't help with main question about the RAM needs, I dare adding to your w.s. list fpGUI. Of course fpGUI is my top desire on that behalf, but unfortunately it's not yet as perfect with thread synchronization as GTK2 is (I did not yet test QT)

Re: [Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-14 Thread Roberto P.
2011/7/14 Michael Schnell : > Hi Experts, > > We are designing a controller PCB using Linux on an ARM CPU. > > We would like to run Lazarus generated programs with a GUI on this hardware. > > Now we would like to know how much RAM is necessary (besides the "Business > Logic" variables the program u

[Lazarus] Memory need on ARM

2011-07-14 Thread Michael Schnell
Hi Experts, We are designing a controller PCB using Linux on an ARM CPU. We would like to run Lazarus generated programs with a GUI on this hardware. Now we would like to know how much RAM is necessary (besides the "Business Logic" variables the program uses). I suppose we will need to use