Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 20/01/2008, Damien Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree GTKx are quite ubly. GTK1 without any doubt, GTK2 why not, but > no QT. I find LCL/GTK2 very slow compared to other GTK2 based applications. I got no idea why it is so, but that is why I still use Lazarus compiled with GTK1. To s

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Saturday 19 January 2008 19.39:32 Damien Gerard wrote: > > Sorry for my ignorance, but I really don't see the interest of fpGui. > Under Windows, I prefer Win32 due to it is the native gui. Under Linux > GTK2 make all the work I need. QT may be too I don't really know I > have not enough tested

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2008, 02:13 +0100 schrieb Marc Santhoff: > > Without any integration with the rest of the OS. > > You still have the same count of software layers. > > fpGUI --> Xlib > > my program --> GTK1 --> Xlib > LCL --> GTK1 --> Xlib > > One layer less, if you ask me. Which is rubbi

[lazarus] Reading keyboard releases with hardware interrupt

2008-01-19 Thread Marco Alvarado
Hello! There is an example on reading the keyboard hardware interrupt in the FPC's GO32 unit reference: http://www.math.uni-hamburg.de/it/software/fpk/units/node5.html#SECTION005212000 I tried to compile it, but throws so many errors, maybe it's not updated for the new compiler. Does

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2008, 01:30 +0100 schrieb Damien Gerard: > On Jan 20, 2008, at 12:38 AM, Marc Santhoff wrote: > > > Am Samstag, den 19.01.2008, 22:41 +0100 schrieb Damien Gerard: > >> Anyway, are you saying fpGUI would be really interesting for embedded > >> apps ? If yes That's interesting

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Damien Gerard
On Jan 20, 2008, at 12:38 AM, Marc Santhoff wrote: Am Samstag, den 19.01.2008, 22:41 +0100 schrieb Damien Gerard: And since one incarnation will have to work on a pretty small embedded computer I'm very happy to get rid of the GTK1 (and it's bugs) Anyway GTk1 is a part of the past. GTK2 sh

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Jan 19, 2008 9:05 PM, Marc Santhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To be honest I'm not really sure if fpGUI, MSEGui or even KOL will win > the race, but the closeness of fpGUI to LCL and lazarus makes it the > hottest candidate. I don't think it has to be a race where one will win and all others

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Samstag, den 19.01.2008, 22:41 +0100 schrieb Damien Gerard: > > And since one incarnation will have to work on a pretty small embedded > > computer I'm very happy to get rid of the GTK1 (and it's bugs) > > Anyway GTk1 is a part of the past. GTK2 should be used instead and > there is not a lot

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 20/01/2008, Damien Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And personaly, I hate apps with both win95 and XP controls in the same > app, even in two separated app. It is really disgracefull. It is one I can't agree more. I like consistency myself. > But, how performance should be better with cu

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Damien Gerard
On Jan 19, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 19/01/2008, Damien Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Projects work on these 3 platform without any defines, and they are quite complex. And the current LCL solves those issues too. So what fpGUI brings to me ? When we started using LC

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Damien Gerard
On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Marc Santhoff wrote: Am Samstag, den 19.01.2008, 19:39 +0100 schrieb Damien Gerard: On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 19/01/2008, Marc Santhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That was a rather nasty experience, because some theming engines int

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19/01/2008, Damien Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Projects work on these 3 platform without any defines, and they are > quite complex. And the current LCL solves those issues too. > So what fpGUI brings to me ? When we started using LCL just over 2 years ago we had lots of issue. GTK1, GTK

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Samstag, den 19.01.2008, 19:39 +0100 schrieb Damien Gerard: > On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > > On 19/01/2008, Marc Santhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That was a rather nasty experience, because some theming engines > >> interfere with this bar color (not impleme

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Damien Gerard
On Jan 19, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 19/01/2008, Marc Santhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That was a rather nasty experience, because some theming engines interfere with this bar color (not implementing all kinds of stuff or not respecting properties set from the program),

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19/01/2008, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can design KOL apps and forms visually in Lazarus. > The trick is that KOL is quite LCL compatible and tells the IDE to be > treated like the LCL. No, fpGUI is not that compatible with LCL. It's different, but not way different lik

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19/01/2008, Marc Santhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That was a rather nasty experience, because some theming engines > interfere with this bar color (not implementing all kinds of stuff or > not respecting properties set from the program), but for TEdit I think > it'll be straight forward. T

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Yury Sidorov
From: "Vincent Snijders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: On 19/01/2008, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, I mean like I am using fpGUI. I use Lazarus IDE as my editor and manage the fpGUI packages. Lazarus simply thinks I'm creating a Free Pascal application (no

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Marc Santhoff
Am Samstag, den 19.01.2008, 19:09 +0200 schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: > For example, > it a edit form the user might have left out some required details. > Those edit forms will have their background colors set to yellow. As > they enter information, the TEdit's background color gets reset (which > i

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: On 19/01/2008, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, I mean like I am using fpGUI. I use Lazarus IDE as my editor and manage the fpGUI packages. Lazarus simply thinks I'm creating a Free Pascal application (not a Lazarus Application). Is it possible to des

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:17:37 +0200 "Graeme Geldenhuys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19/01/2008, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No, I mean like I am using fpGUI. I use Lazarus IDE as my editor > > > and manage the fpGUI packages. Lazarus simply thinks I'm > > > creating a Fr

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19/01/2008, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, I mean like I am using fpGUI. I use Lazarus IDE as my editor and > > manage the fpGUI packages. Lazarus simply thinks I'm creating a Free > > Pascal application (not a Lazarus Application). > > Is it possible to design fpGUI apps

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19/01/2008, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did you know > http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_Faq#How_can_my_gtk_programs_use_custom_rc_files.3F > ? That's exactly what I was refering to. But as far as I understood it, you can change for example TEdit's background on de

Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19/01/2008, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I fixed both and extended the ToDo list to show the todos for packages: > Package Editor / More / View ToDo list. At was going to be my next feature to implement once the todo list screen was fixed. Thank again Mattias. Regards, -

Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-19 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Dave Coventry wrote: I have Delphi 3 Standard and I still code with it, I never upgraded to 4 because it had a bad reputation, when 5 came out they had changed the license so that you were no longer free to distribute your applications unless you shelled out for the Enterprise edition which was

Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-19 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > Dave Coventry wrote: > > > I have Delphi 3 Standard and I still code with it, I never upgraded to > > 4 because it had a bad reputation, when 5 came out they had changed > > the license so that you were no longer free to distribute your > > applic

Re: [lazarus] TimeCallBack under Win32

2008-01-19 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Damien Gerard wrote: n := FTimerData.Count; while (n>0) do begin dec(n); > It seems FTimerData is not properly set. Is it possible ? May be it is > related to some bad behavior of my application (I really don't know what > but it is not impossible) Try explicitly disabling this while

Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE

2008-01-19 Thread Gerard N/A
Great, thanks.

Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE

2008-01-19 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:46:00 +0100 "Gerard N/A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I added two reports with patches in the bug tracker, both for the > parsing issue (10650) and the comment (10651). I fixed both and extended the ToDo list to show the todos for packages: Package Editor / More / View ToDo

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:53:17 +0200 "Graeme Geldenhuys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19/01/2008, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well, the fault isn't Lazarus or it's developers. The problem is > > GTK!! (all bug reports you mentioned are Gtk specific) > > Ah ye

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Vincent Snijders
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schreef: On Jan 19, 2008 9:44 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anybody actually tried to use MSEgui with Lazarus IDE? Or is MSEgui tide to much to MSEide? I guess it could be possible, but due to MSEgui having such a huge amount of options (enum

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19/01/2008, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, the fault isn't Lazarus or it's developers. The problem is GTK!! > (all bug reports you mentioned are Gtk specific) Ah yes, now I remember someone mentioning something like that > I tryed very hard to solve the wi

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Jan 19, 2008 9:39 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We didn't want to go that way out. We simply wanted to use different > background colors (corporate colors) for Forms, Labels and Buttons. > Such a simple thing, yet the LCL didn't allow us to change those. That > was 2 years

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19/01/2008, Martin Schreiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. Start cranking out LCL patches to fix the issues. ;-) 2. Ditch > > the LCL, but continue using Lazarus with a different GUI toolkit. > > I've had great success with option 2. > > > 3. MSEide+MSEgui ;-) Has anybody actually tried

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-19 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 19/01/2008, Lee Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think for me, the biggest challenge was re-thinking the GUI widgets that I > use. Windows development seems to be centered around the "sizzle" of GUI > components where everyone is trying to have their apps look like the latest > version of

RE: [lazarus] MouseMove problem in WinCE

2008-01-19 Thread Sam Liddicott
Please can you documet how you did it. I fail with all kinds of libs not compiling for wince. I want to add wince to my "build all cross" script.thanks Sam -Original Message- From: Paul Michell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 18 January 2008 23:09 To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus