Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread m h
On 10/2/07, Jesse Stay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/2/07, m h <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds like a good way to do genealogical indexing. Someone should > > tell the church ;) > > Also sounds like an interesting business idea. Farm out captchas to > > blogs, and pay people for usi

Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread Jesse Stay
On 10/2/07, m h <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds like a good way to do genealogical indexing. Someone should > tell the church ;) > Also sounds like an interesting business idea. Farm out captchas to > blogs, and pay people for using the captcha > Seth Godin actually already proposed

Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread Bryan Murdock
On 10/2/07, Bryan Murdock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The inventor of the captcha calls this Human Computation. He gave an > interesting talk at Google on the subject that you can watch here: > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8246463980976635143 > > He presents it very well and even no

Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread m h
Sounds like a good way to do genealogical indexing. Someone should tell the church ;) Also sounds like an interesting business idea. Farm out captchas to blogs, and pay people for using the captcha On 10/2/07, Jon D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an idea... > Some of you may have se

Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread Bryan Murdock
The inventor of the captcha calls this Human Computation. He gave an interesting talk at Google on the subject that you can watch here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8246463980976635143 He presents it very well and even non-techies (like my wife) enjoyed watching this when I showed th

Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread Jacob Sorensen
Having a valid CAPTCHA and then a digitization problem is okay, but recognize it doesn't mean that CAPTCHA can validly be used for digitization, or vice versa -- it just means that you've added a "service" element onto the CAPTCHA so people can do some useful work at the same time they are validati

Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread Jon D.
But most of these points are in fact addressed by reCaptcha. The idea given below was simply using handwritten texts, instead of printed books as input, which would require just a little bit more verification of accuracy. -Jon --- Jacob Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've seen this idea

Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread John
The solution to what Jake suggests is a two-part CAPTCHA, one part that the computer does know and another that it doesn't. If the former is entered accurate the user passes it is assumed that the latter is as well, but of course you can run the handwriting through as many time as you want

Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread Jesse Stay
On 10/2/07, Jon D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Here's an idea... > Some of you may have seen today's (and previous) > Slashdot links on reCaptcha, a cool idea > that's starting to be more commonly-used: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7023627.stm > http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html > Basi

Re: [Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread Jacob Sorensen
I've seen this idea before, and the main problem is that digitizing scanned words and CAPTCHA are at cross-purposes. The problem in digitizing is that the computer doesn't know the word. In CAPTCHA, the computer knows the word, and it needs to in order to validate the user. If you don't know for

[Ldsoss] Digitizing handwritten records by stopping spammers (or vice versa)

2007-10-02 Thread Jon D.
Here's an idea... Some of you may have seen today's (and previous) Slashdot links on reCaptcha, a cool idea that's starting to be more commonly-used: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7023627.stm http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html Basically they're using a CAPTCHA to digitize old scanned bo