Re: [Leaf-devel] 2.4 Kernel?

2001-07-11 Thread Dale Long
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > I haven't decided if I'll update to 2.4 and glibc 2.2, or release first, > or update to just glibc 2.2. I'm leaning toward the latter - update to > glibc 2.2 and release. > > > How up to date is Open Wall with 2.4? > > >From http://www.openwall.com:

Re: [Leaf-devel] lua for scripting?

2001-07-11 Thread Dale Long
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > I have that on my Palm (along with FORTH and LISP :-) I had one of the Forth's, the one that can compile binaries on board. There is a GPL'ed basic called SmallBasic which seems promising. > I have (or had) a stand-alone compiler around here somewhere

Re: [Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-11

2001-07-11 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, I created a new Download page for our web site, and updated the Packages page. Please take a look at them, and let me know what you think. http://leaf.sourceforge.net/content.php?menu=15&page_id=21 http://leaf.sourceforge.net/content.php?menu=12&page_id=14 Note: The packages page sti

Re: [Leaf-devel] More packaging enhancements

2001-07-11 Thread Dale Long
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > For me, I almost hesitated to put that in - but the way I build packages > (main binary in bin.lrp, needed dynamic libraries in libX.lrp) adding > requirements is a big win. > > However, these are my goals: > 1. Simplicity > 2. Simplicity > 3. Simplici

Re: [Leaf-devel] More packaging enhancements

2001-07-11 Thread Tim Wegner
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > I'd like to see Dachstein be a fairly straight-forward update to the > Materhorn/Eiger series disks. I hope to get this done in the near term ... This a would be worthwhile. A couple of requests. 1. It would be useful to integrate one the extended scripts unto D

Re: [Leaf-devel] Modules and directories

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> > > With a nice clean-up of modules, I can forsee a tree like this: > > > > > > /lib/modules/boot/* (in root.lrp) > > > /lib/modules/2.2.16/* (in a modules.lrp) > > > /lib/modules/2.2.19/* (in an alternate modules.lrp) > > > Thanks. I play so much with LRP, I forget about stuff like modprobe

[Leaf-devel] Collecting feature requests for lrpStat

2001-07-11 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi everybody, Sorry this got a little long - if you don't use lrpStat or don't care much for it, you can skip this message. With the help of my company, I'm currently working on designing a complete rewrite of the LrpStat tool. The main focus will be making it more versatile, i.e. enabling it to

Re: [Leaf-devel] Modules and directories

2001-07-11 Thread David Douthitt
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > With a nice clean-up of modules, I can forsee a tree like this: > > > > /lib/modules/boot/* (in root.lrp) > > /lib/modules/2.2.16/* (in a modules.lrp) > > /lib/modules/2.2.19/* (in an alternate modules.lrp) > Thanks. I play so much with LRP, I forget about stu

Re: [Leaf-devel] Modules and directories

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> > > Only thing I'd possibly like to do in Oxygen is to move > > > /var/boot/modules to /lib/modules/boot (the standard location, I > > > understand). > > > > I settled on putting my boot-time modules in /boot/lib/modules, following > > the layout of my HDD machines, which create a /boot partitio

Re: [Leaf-devel] More packaging enhancements

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> David, > Would it be a good idea for us to follow the LSB 1.0 specs? > > http://www.linuxbase.org/ > https://sourceforge.net/projects/lsb AFAIK, we can't follow LSB and still fit on a floppy, but we should probably try to not break any LSB rules. It may be possible to make a superset of some L

Re: [Leaf-devel] LEAF/OSD

2001-07-11 Thread Mike Noyes
Steve, Registration Complete! Thank you for inviting us to list our project at OSD. Steve Mallett, 2001-07-11 07:15 -0300 >Hi all you LEAF Project Developers (this was the email contact address on FM), > >I co-operate a website called OpenSourceDirectory (OSD). > >We list only stable, opensource

[Leaf-devel] Modules and directories

2001-07-11 Thread David Douthitt
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > Only thing I'd possibly like to do in Oxygen is to move > > /var/boot/modules to /lib/modules/boot (the standard location, I > > understand). > > I settled on putting my boot-time modules in /boot/lib/modules, following > the layout of my HDD machines, which creat

Re: [Leaf-devel] More packaging enhancements

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> > I think the .req should be based on a functionality list, not a simple > > package name. There should also be some way to differentiate versions > > and/or functionality. For instance, it's probably important to be able to > > tell the difference between glibc versions, and between POSIXness

Re: [Leaf-devel] More packaging enhancements

2001-07-11 Thread Mike Noyes
David Douthitt, 2001-07-11 10:42 -0400 >Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > I'd like to see a 'ground-up' effort including the new c libraries, > > 2.2/2.4 kernel support, the new packaging system (likely apkg on > > steroids), and other enhancements. I don't see any reason to tie > > these changes t

Re: [Leaf-devel] More packaging enhancements

2001-07-11 Thread David Douthitt
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > I think the .req should be based on a functionality list, not a simple > package name. There should also be some way to differentiate versions > and/or functionality. For instance, it's probably important to be able to > tell the difference between glibc versions,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Kernel stuff

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> Charles Steinkuehler, 2001-07-11 09:08 -0500 > >*DOH* Of course, I'm not using gcc on RH to compile the kernel...it's > >really: > >egcs-2.91.66 > > > >egcs-2.91.66 compiled zImage size: 473320 > >gcc 2.7.2.3 compiled zImage size: 464668 > > Charles, > Have you tried the new gcc 3.0? No, I don

Re: [Leaf-devel] More packaging enhancements

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> I propose the following updates to packages, and would like to start > using them: > > .sh Shell script which takes a > parameter - one of: > preinst postinst prerem postrem > ...executed by apkg at times indicated > > .descConf file describing

Re: [Leaf-devel] Kernel stuff

2001-07-11 Thread Mike Noyes
Charles Steinkuehler, 2001-07-11 09:08 -0500 >*DOH* Of course, I'm not using gcc on RH to compile the kernel...it's >really: >egcs-2.91.66 > >egcs-2.91.66 compiled zImage size: 473320 >gcc 2.7.2.3 compiled zImage size: 464668 Charles, Have you tried the new gcc 3.0? -- Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Leaf-devel] lua for scripting?

2001-07-11 Thread Mike Noyes
David Douthitt, 2001-07-11 09:04 -0400 >Is there (yet) a "Package Repository" which contains all the packages? >Perhaps we could build a HTML interface? Give me half a day and I'll >write one :-) David, I'm working on it. I expected to have the packages page done by now. Relearning IRC has slow

Re: [Leaf-devel] lua for scripting?

2001-07-11 Thread Mike Noyes
Dale Long, 2001-07-11 10:34 +0930 >I will make an lrp package out of it and place it somewhere on LEAF. >Where is a good location for this? I have a Sourceforge account, does this >imply I have a page or ftp area? Dale, The FAQ below should answer your questions. If not, please let me know, and

Re: [Leaf-devel] 2.4 Kernel?

2001-07-11 Thread David Douthitt
Dale Long wrote: > Excuse me if I have missed earlier comments on this. > Is there any work on the 2.4 kernel for LEAF? > I would like to see how I can get it into Oxygen. George Metz and Charles Steinkuehler have done it; George posted his to his web site on http://leaf.sourceforge.net (look fo

[Leaf-devel] 2.4 Kernel?

2001-07-11 Thread Dale Long
Excuse me if I have missed earlier comments on this. Is there any work on the 2.4 kernel for LEAF? I would like to see how I can get it into Oxygen. David, have you looked in this area or are you still recovering from glibc updates? How up to date is Open Wall with 2.4? Dale.

[Leaf-devel] More packaging enhancements

2001-07-11 Thread David Douthitt
I propose the following updates to packages, and would like to start using them: .sh Shell script which takes a parameter - one of: preinst postinst prerem postrem ...executed by apkg at times indicated .descConf file describing package:

Re: [Leaf-devel] Kernel stuff

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
*DOH* Of course, I'm not using gcc on RH to compile the kernel...it's really: egcs-2.91.66 egcs-2.91.66 compiled zImage size: 473320 gcc 2.7.2.3 compiled zImage size: 464668 Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net (lrp.c0wz.com mirror) ___

Re: [Leaf-devel] lua for scripting?

2001-07-11 Thread David Douthitt
Dale Long wrote: > Has anyone seen the lua language? Here at our company the Web Services people are using it for something or another. > What brought my attention to it was that > it had been released for PalmOS and is quite small and designed to be > embeded in a parent application or embeded

[Leaf-devel] Kernel stuff

2001-07-11 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Well, I've been playing with 2.2.19 kernels, and noticed something interesting. When I compile on my RH 7.0 box (gcc 2.96) I get a kernel that's a fair amount larger than the same kernel compiled on my Debian Slink box (gcc 2.7.2.3). gcc 2.96 compiled zImage size: 473320 gcc 2.7.2.3 compiled zIm

[Leaf-devel] Site update 2001-07-11

2001-07-11 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, Good news. The SourceForge staff has fixed the Apache .htaccess DefaultType override problem. All undefined file types should now download as binary. An explanation of the fix is below. >Comment By: Uriah Welcome (precision) >Date: 2001-07-10 16:21 > >Message: >Logged In: YES >user_i

[Leaf-devel] LEAF/OSD

2001-07-11 Thread Steve Mallett
Hi all you LEAF Project Developers (this was the email contact address on FM), I co-operate a website called OpenSourceDirectory (OSD). We list only stable, opensource code. At its most basic level it's a resource for *new to open-source users* to find "open-source apps that work". We pare it