RE: [leaf-user] opening UDP ports Bering with shorewall

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 22:03, Ray Olszewski wrote: In the end, I think Mike is right ... the problems with attachments outweigh the inconveniences from not having them. Unless ... just a blue-sky idea here ... the version of Mailman we use can rewrite attachment names so they all end in

Re: [leaf-user] CABLE + WIFI + IPSEC + WINDOWS + BERING = ???

2003-12-19 Thread George Metz
Yeah, I know. I was more replying to someone else saying that WEP was enough. It's clearly not. The actual Access Point SHOULD work exactly like a standard ethernet bridge/hub, so it should pass through the IPSec without issue. My suggestion was more in the nature of here's how you get it up

Re: [leaf-user] CABLE + WIFI + IPSEC + WINDOWS + BERING = ???

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 09:24, George Metz wrote: Yeah, I know. I was more replying to someone else saying that WEP was enough. It's clearly not. George, Is NoCatAuth/NoCatSplash an acceptable solution to wireless security? NoCat http://nocat.net/ BTW, do we have a package for

Re: [leaf-user] CABLE + WIFI + IPSEC + WINDOWS + BERING = ???

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 10:16, Mike Noyes wrote: On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 09:24, George Metz wrote: Yeah, I know. I was more replying to someone else saying that WEP was enough. It's clearly not. George, Is NoCatAuth/NoCatSplash an acceptable solution to wireless security? NoCat

[leaf-user] busybox/sort question

2003-12-19 Thread Charles Holbrook
I'm trying to move a shell script over onto a leaf system. It used the sort -k command on the previous box and from what I can tell the busybox sort does not have that functionality. Is there any way to achieve the same results with the switches given for the busybox sort?

Re: [leaf-user] CABLE + WIFI + IPSEC + WINDOWS + BERING = ???

2003-12-19 Thread George Metz
Mike, Not really. Actually, I'd PROBABLY consider using that as an additional step, except that IIRC IPSec will handle all the auth. All this is really doing is preventing unauthorized users from using your net connection, whereas IPSec is actually establishing a tunnel, allowing you to send

Re: [leaf-user] CABLE + WIFI + IPSEC + WINDOWS + BERING = ???

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 12:26, George Metz wrote: Not really. Actually, I'd PROBABLY consider using that as an additional step, except that IIRC IPSec will handle all the auth. All this is really doing is preventing unauthorized users from using your net connection, whereas IPSec is actually

RE: [leaf-user] opening UDP ports Bering with shorewall

2003-12-19 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On 18 Dec 2003, Mike Noyes wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 20:35, Mike Noyes wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 19:15, Tom Eastep wrote: Mike -- It is I who am inconvenienced by this policy. I simply refuse to try to decipher an inline 500kb shorewall status output that some newbie's mailer

RE: [leaf-user] opening UDP ports Bering with shorewall

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Noyes
On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 13:23, Jeff Newmiller wrote: On 18 Dec 2003, Mike Noyes wrote: On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 20:35, Mike Noyes wrote: However, I think attachments are a bigger problem with the software in use at SF. Suggestions as always are welcome. Additional information:

RE: [leaf-user] opening UDP ports Bering with shorewall

2003-12-19 Thread Tom Eastep
On Fri, 2003-12-19 at 14:16, Mike Noyes wrote: Let me see if I can clarify the issue for you. I can work around this problem until SF upgrades to Mailman 2.1.x -Tom Tom Eastep\ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool Shoreline, \ http://shorewall.net Washington USA \