Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-03 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 07:44, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 03:30, Henning Jebsen wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 19:05, Tom Eastep wrote: > > > As announced today on the Shorewall User's list, I am no longer involved > > > in Shorewall support. > > > > Uh ? This is very sad. You are no

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-03 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 03:30, Henning Jebsen wrote: > On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 19:05, Tom Eastep wrote: > > As announced today on the Shorewall User's list, I am no longer involved > > in Shorewall support. > > Uh ? This is very sad. You are not supporting it anymore at all? > Are there some news on sh

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-03 Thread Henning Jebsen
As announced today on the Shorewall User's list, I am no longer involved in Shorewall support. Uh ? This is very sad. You are not supporting it anymore at all? Are there some news on shorewall.net ? Is time getting too short, to support shorewall ? greetings ! -

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
"Mike Noyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shorewall Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "leaf-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit > Tom, > Is Shorewall capable of blocking/logging/detect

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-02 Thread Lynn Avants
On Tuesday 02 December 2003 10:04 pm, Mike Noyes wrote: > Ah. This is what I was looking for. So, there is probably a rule that > can be generated to stop spoofed packets from egressing the protected > LAN. There is spoof-protection enabled in the kernel (per Dachstein anyway). IIRC, the compromis

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-02 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 19:39, Tom Eastep wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Tom Eastep wrote: > > Shorewall currently does no checking for spoofed output packets (and > > probably won't in the future). > > By "output", I mean packets originating on the firewall itself. If the > firewall system itself is

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-02 Thread Tom Eastep
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Tom Eastep wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 17:57, Joey Officer wrote: > > > At face value, and without (intending to) sounding like a moron, Shorewall > > > can block anything you tell it not to explicitly allow. Isn't that the > > >

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-02 Thread Tom Eastep
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Mike Noyes wrote: > On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 17:57, Joey Officer wrote: > > At face value, and without (intending to) sounding like a moron, Shorewall > > can block anything you tell it not to explicitly allow. Isn't that the > > default way its currently being used? > As announ

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-02 Thread Mike Noyes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:38 AM > Subject: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit > > > > Tom, > > Is Shorewall capable of blocking/logging/detecting the spoofed packet > > SucKIT uses? > > > > > > http://lists.debian

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-02 Thread Joey Officer
To: "Shorewall Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "leaf-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit > Tom, > Is Shorewall capable of blocking/logging/detecting the spoofed packet > SucKIT uses? >

Re: [leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-02 Thread Tom Eastep
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 08:38, Mike Noyes wrote: > Tom, > Is Shorewall capable of blocking/logging/detecting the spoofed packet > SucKIT uses? I haven't a clue. -Tom -- Tom Eastep\ Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool Shoreline, \ http://shorewall.net Washington USA \ [EMA

[leaf-user] SucKIT root-kit

2003-12-02 Thread Mike Noyes
Tom, Is Shorewall capable of blocking/logging/detecting the spoofed packet SucKIT uses? http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/debian-announce-2003/msg3.html SucKIT is a root-kit presented in Phrack issue 58, article 0x07 ("Linux on-the-fly kernel patching without LKM", by sd & devik