Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI"

2010-03-14 Thread Brian Garrett
That was Zen. This is Tao. Brian From: Sanjeev Gupta Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 7:52 PM To: Leap Second Discussion List Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI" On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:23, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: <20100315014100.ga15..

Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI"

2010-03-14 Thread Brian Garrett
The UTC that can be disseminated is not the true UTC. Brian -- From: "Steve Allen" Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 6:41 PM To: "Leap Second Discussion List" Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI" On

Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI"

2010-03-14 Thread Rob Seaman
Steve Allen contemplates the circularity of time: > "UTC is derived from TAI" ... There is only one TAI, and it comes next month > from BIPM Circular T. ... As a practical matter, TAI is derived from all the > various versions of UTC(k) which are maintained by the contributing national > labs.

Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI"

2010-03-14 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:23, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20100315014100.ga15...@ucolick.org> >Steve Allen writes: > : On Sun 2010-03-14T21:11:58 -0400, Matsakis, Demetrios hath writ: > : > However, there is only one UTC, which has many realizations. The > : > true UTC is

Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI"

2010-03-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: <20100315014100.ga15...@ucolick.org> Steve Allen writes: : On Sun 2010-03-14T21:11:58 -0400, Matsakis, Demetrios hath writ: : > However, there is only one UTC, which has many realizations. The : > true UTC is determined not from the realizations, but from the clocks : > be

Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI"

2010-03-14 Thread Matsakis, Demetrios
Discussion List Subject: Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI" On Sun 2010-03-14T21:11:58 -0400, Matsakis, Demetrios hath writ: > However, there is only one UTC, which has many realizations. The > true UTC is determined not from the realizations, but from the clocks > behind

Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI"

2010-03-14 Thread Steve Allen
On Sun 2010-03-14T21:11:58 -0400, Matsakis, Demetrios hath writ: > However, there is only one UTC, which has many realizations. The > true UTC is determined not from the realizations, but from the clocks > behind those realizations. At the end of the flower sermon Buddha said I possess the tr

Re: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI"

2010-03-14 Thread Matsakis, Demetrios
. From: Steve Allen Sent: Sun 3/14/2010 8:54 PM To: Leap Second Discussion List Subject: [LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI" "UTC is derived from TAI" Type that phrase into google and look at the results, from IERS, ITU, G. Petit, E.F. Arias, wik

[LEAPSECS] "UTC is derived from TAI"

2010-03-14 Thread Steve Allen
"UTC is derived from TAI" Type that phrase into google and look at the results, from IERS, ITU, G. Petit, E.F. Arias, wikipedia These deserve to be treated as authoritative sources. But isn't it the case that hidden in that phrase is something that deserves a great deal of explanation? There is