Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-11-12 Thread Paul Oranje
l.s. For a heritage wiki that I helped set-up a few years ago (www.culturalheritageconnections.org) a combination of structured data and “normal” unstructured information was used. This set-up deploys semantic extensions to mediawiki where the structured data is captured in semantic properties

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-15 Thread Thomas Endt
> von Alberto Bursi > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. September 2016 00:44 > I think techinfodepot is going to be more cooperative with this plan > than wikidevi, although wikidevi is already queryable somehwhat so > extracting data would work. >From a PM: "I believe that DarkShadow the creator of TechI

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-14 Thread Alberto Bursi
On 09/14/2016 09:00 PM, Thomas Endt wrote: > However, as you mentioned, the guy(s) at wikidevi are hard to catch. But > since I didn't think it to the end, we should first make up our minds how > the "joined forces" could look like and what we expect from it. I'd rather avoid having only links as

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-14 Thread Thomas Endt
> On a related note I wonder if anyone ever thought about joining forces > with WikiDevi? Indeed, I already thought about this long ago. That's the reason why I implemented the link to wikidevi in the dataentry pages. wikidevi provides usefull data, and in fact, more data and more detailed data th

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-13 Thread Jo-Philipp Wich
Hi Tarek, Thomas Endt and others invested a lot of time to implement a structured table of hardware in the OpenWrt wiki, which means that a lot of detail information is accessible in a SQLite3 database file which should make it easy to generate hardware documentation pages with a little script and

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-09 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, Rich Brown wrote: What a great discussion! I am delighted to see so much interest in the LEDE project, and concern for its success. But I want to pick up on something that Thomas said... On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Thomas Endt wrote: ... However, I'm hesitating to inves

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-09 Thread Alberto Bursi
On 09/09/2016 12:49 AM, Rich Brown wrote: Right now, a new visitor to lede-project.org will see a few nicely formatted welcome pages, downloadable firmware images, but no documentation to speak of, and no (obvious) community. Also no obvious rules to submit patches. https://www.lede-project

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Jan-Tarek Butt
On 09/08/16 19:38, Thomas Endt wrote: > [Sorry if this message is out-of-thread. I joined the mailinglist only > today] No problem :) > Russel> If you want something that's pretty, hire someone to watch > Russel> RecentChanges and clean stuff up. > > I did this quite intensively in the past, b

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Rich Brown
What a great discussion! I am delighted to see so much interest in the LEDE project, and concern for its success. But I want to pick up on something that Thomas said... > On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Thomas Endt wrote: > > ... However, I'm > hesitating to invest as much time as I used to some m

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread John Crispin
On 08/09/2016 19:38, Thomas Endt wrote: > John> minor details, openwrt wiki still has 0 admins that delete > John> and protect pages, which is the important part of my mail. > > I'm still there... but to pick up the idea of LEDE, to have several people > for the same function in order to avoid a

[LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Thomas Endt
[Sorry if this message is out-of-thread. I joined the mailinglist only today] Russel> If you want something that's pretty, hire someone to watch Russel> RecentChanges and clean stuff up. I did this quite intensively in the past, but needed some time for other stuff during the last 5 months. Trigg

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Alberto Bursi
I think most people are a bit excessive here. LEDE wiki isn't Wikipedia and won't ever get anywhere near the amount of edits as a generalist wiki. Having some designated guy that gets an email and then looks at modifications to make sure it's not garbage is feasible imho, like a "wiki mantai

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread John Crispin
-- Original Message - > From: "John Crispin" > To: "Jan-Tarek Butt" , lede-dev@lists.infradead.org > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:08:37 AM > Subject: Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous > Table of Hardware > &

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Joseph Marlin
it "Nupedia" likely didn't help either. :-) - Original Message - From: "John Crispin" To: "Jan-Tarek Butt" , lede-dev@lists.infradead.org Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:08:37 AM Subject: Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread John Crispin
On 08/09/2016 15:56, Jan-Tarek Butt wrote: > > > On 09/08/16 14:19, Russell Senior wrote: >>> "Jan-Tarek" == Jan-Tarek Butt writes: >> >> Jan-Tarek> Also I wish we can establish a reviewing and applying >> Jan-Tarek> process. But I dont know how we can resolv this inside a >> Jan-Tarek> w

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Jan-Tarek Butt
On 09/08/16 14:19, Russell Senior wrote: >> "Jan-Tarek" == Jan-Tarek Butt writes: > > Jan-Tarek> Also I wish we can establish a reviewing and applying > Jan-Tarek> process. But I dont know how we can resolv this inside a > Jan-Tarek> wiki > > The traditional wiki approach is to let people

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Russell Senior
> "Jan-Tarek" == Jan-Tarek Butt writes: Jan-Tarek> Also I wish we can establish a reviewing and applying Jan-Tarek> process. But I dont know how we can resolv this inside a Jan-Tarek> wiki The traditional wiki approach is to let people make edits freely and to revert bad changes. That way,

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Jan-Tarek Butt
On 09/08/16 12:59, Karl Palsson wrote: > > Jan-Tarek Butt wrote: >>> Since I was referenced in that thread on the OpenWrt forum, I'll give my >>> two cents. The documentation initiative I tried to start seemed to >>> fizzle out from the difficulty in getting the front page of the wiki >>> chang

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Karl Palsson
Jan-Tarek Butt wrote: > > Since I was referenced in that thread on the OpenWrt forum, I'll give my > > two cents. The documentation initiative I tried to start seemed to > > fizzle out from the difficulty in getting the front page of the wiki > > changed to be more useful. When changes didn't see

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Karl Palsson
Russell Senior wrote: >> [on making documentation changes only via pull requests] >> > I want to push back on this a little bit. Jimmy Wales had > similar ideas, once upon a time (see > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nupedia), and he was proven > wrong, empirically. The beauty of wikis is that pe

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Jan-Tarek Butt
>> On 09/08/16 11:08, Russell Senior wrote: "Eric" == Eric Schultz writes: >>> >>> Eric> I think the idea of having the hardware support documentation >>> Eric> managed by experts is a good idea. Non-experts can, and should, >>> Eric> have plenty of areas to contribute but I don't see thi

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread moeller0
Hi Tarek, > On Sep 8, 2016, at 11:34 , Jan-Tarek Butt wrote: > > > > On 09/08/16 11:08, Russell Senior wrote: >>> "Eric" == Eric Schultz writes: >> >> Eric> I think the idea of having the hardware support documentation >> Eric> managed by experts is a good idea. Non-experts can, and shou

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Jan-Tarek Butt
On 09/08/16 11:08, Russell Senior wrote: >> "Eric" == Eric Schultz writes: > > Eric> I think the idea of having the hardware support documentation > Eric> managed by experts is a good idea. Non-experts can, and should, > Eric> have plenty of areas to contribute but I don't see this area as

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Jan-Tarek Butt
> Since I was referenced in that thread on the OpenWrt forum, I'll give my > two cents. The documentation initiative I tried to start seemed to > fizzle out from the difficulty in getting the front page of the wiki > changed to be more useful. When changes didn't seem possible (and it > wasn't clea

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-08 Thread Russell Senior
> "Eric" == Eric Schultz writes: Eric> I think the idea of having the hardware support documentation Eric> managed by experts is a good idea. Non-experts can, and should, Eric> have plenty of areas to contribute but I don't see this area as Eric> one of them. I want to push back on this a li

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-07 Thread Eric Schultz
Hey all, Since I was referenced in that thread on the OpenWrt forum, I'll give my two cents. The documentation initiative I tried to start seemed to fizzle out from the difficulty in getting the front page of the wiki changed to be more useful. When changes didn't seem possible (and it wasn't clea

Re: [LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-07 Thread J Mo
On 09/07/2016 11:43 AM, Jan-Tarek Butt wrote: If anyone have some better ideas for documenting device specific informations pls write it here. Also some feature ideas or potential problems will be very helpful. Maybe you should involve these people in the conversation: https://forum.openwrt.o

[LEDE-DEV] Documentation for router support means the famous Table of Hardware

2016-09-07 Thread Jan-Tarek Butt
Hi, I am Tarek. ndb and I had discuss about the hardware support documentation for LEDE. So I send these proposal to create a asciidoc documentation nearly similar to the OpenWRT table of hardware. The idea is to create a Main table were users can fast and easily search for devices. Each device sh