Re: [LU] Tweet by Leeds United on Twitter

2017-05-24 Thread Richard Naef
#LUFC are delighted to confirm that @Ronaldo_Vieira8 has signed a new contract to remain at Elland Road >Good news.  Yes it is unless the second part of the tweet is ..until some premier moneybags comes along and turns the lad's head. ___

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Matt Anderson
Local and others can be a lot lower. Key is that more people don't vote at all than the winning party gets Sent from my iPhone > On 24 May 2017, at 16:33, Nicholas Armit wrote: > > I thought general election turnouts in the UK were pretty high (60-70%)? > > > From: Matt

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Richard Naef
2015 66% turnout, Tories got 36.9% of votes 51% of seats. 100% of Government. Apart from the 2010 coalition I don’t think there has been a govt with the majority of votes for a couple of generations. Local and European elections often less than 30% ttfn Richard From: Nicholas Armit

Re: [LU] Tweet by Leeds United on Twitter

2017-05-24 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Good news.  From: Matt Anderson To: Leeds List Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:33 AM Subject: [LU] Tweet by Leeds United on Twitter     Leeds United (@LUFC) 24/05/2017, 16:32 ✍️ #LUFC are delighted to confirm that @Ronaldo_Vieira8 has

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
I thought general election turnouts in the UK were pretty high (60-70%)? From: Matt Anderson To: Richard Naef Cc: Leeds List Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [LU] : Manchester Agreed.

[LU] Tweet by Leeds United on Twitter

2017-05-24 Thread Matt Anderson
Leeds United (@LUFC) 24/05/2017, 16:32 ✍️ #LUFC are delighted to confirm that @Ronaldo_Vieira8 has signed a new contract to remain at Elland Road bit.ly/LUFCronaldoext… pic.twitter.com/UcNZqH97EX Download the Twitter app Sent from my iPhone

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Matt Anderson
Agreed. Also leads to turnouts of 30-40% or less because no one can be bothered Sent from my iPhone > On 24 May 2017, at 15:43, Richard Naef > wrote: > > That may well be the experience in your country, but it's a special case as > the involvement of

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Jeremy Adams
Yeah Rob, please don't start another on list fight with the Dr. If you want to bash each other over the head, please do it off list! Ta Jeremy From: Leedslist on behalf of Michael Benjamin Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Always thought PR with the 5% threshold as in Germany was a good idea. Nick From: Richard Naef To: Michael Benjamin ; Matt Anderson Cc: Leeds List Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:43 AM

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Benjamin
Maybe so, Richard. But I've experienced only what I've experienced. And my experience is awful. Mind you, first past the post gave us Trump. Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist. SKYPE: BEDENOGA PHONE: +972-505-317772 BLOG: Times Of Israel

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Benjamin
Don’t even start. Stay off line. Have you no self-control? Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist. SKYPE: BEDENOGA PHONE: +972-505-317772 BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Richard Naef
That may well be the experience in your country, but it's a special case as the involvement of religious parties is part of the basis for your existence. Modern European democracies are all based on PR and better for it. In the UK the vast majority of people's vote are literally worth nothing.

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Benjamin
Ridiculous---You can never appreciate ridiculous till you live under proportional representation. It promotes militants loons. In Israel the 10-15% penguins are 'driven by' a third motivated ones. They then hold the balance of power. You do not get diversity you get lunacy. No one looks to

Re: [LU] Plan b? Please no!

2017-05-24 Thread Matt Anderson
My colleague is a boro fan. He said it was awful to watch despite eventual promotion. Karanka is like mourinho. Thrives on division and is stubborn. How can you fall out with one of the best chairmen in football who has backed him to best of his ability 100%? Got a lot of time for boro. The

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Matt Anderson
Don't get me started on that. I'm pro PR. As a "red Tory" I live in a safe labour seat. I hate what Corbyn is trying to do. But don't have any voice His legacy will be 10 years of unopposed Tory rule at least Sent from my iPhone > On 24 May 2017, at 14:55, Richard Naef

Re: [LU] Plan b? Please no!

2017-05-24 Thread {broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Why? He actually did get promotion with Boro right?  I too would like Monk to sign up but his demands need to be in reason too. Having a Plan B is sensible and I do not think Karanka is a bad option. Nick From: Jeremy Adams To: "leedslist@gn.apc.org"

[LU] 15k Season tickets sold already.

2017-05-24 Thread Richard Naef
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Re: [LU] Plan b? Please no!

2017-05-24 Thread Jeremy Adams
Because I think Karanka plays unattractive football and also because I believe Monk has started something here and if we give him another season he could create something. Getting Karanka means we start all over again and have another "transitional" season.

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Richard Naef
I'm of the opinion if you live in a democratic society and benefit from that, you've also got to accept responsibility for decisions made by democratically elected politicians. Blair went to parliament, who voted by a large majority to back him. That's how things work in a democracy, flawed

Re: [LU] Plan b? Please no!

2017-05-24 Thread Andy Clayton
AR has exercised the one year extension to Monk's contract already apparently. On Wed, 24 May 2017 at 14:37, Jeremy Adams wrote: > I realize there are more important things in the world right now than the > next Leeds manager but according to teamtalk Karanka is the

[LU] Plan b? Please no!

2017-05-24 Thread Jeremy Adams
I realize there are more important things in the world right now than the next Leeds manager but according to teamtalk Karanka is the plan B option if we cant agree terms with Garry Monk. Please let this not be the case! Jeremy ___ Leedslist

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Matt Anderson
"War is hell, don't get involved in one if you aren't ready to face the consequences." Exactly! However that choice to get into a war was made for us! Political self interest globally is to blame and our politicians were complicit but not in our name Sent from my iPhone > On 24 May 2017, at

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Richard Naef
>Blaming Islam is a little bit like blaming all men for rape True, more apposite is don't blame Marx for the actions of Stalin or Mao. > but at the same time groups of people to self police and that needs to go on > more. Didsbury mosque goers must have had a clue about him. Not really

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Rob Heath
We do not want to be lectured about "terrorism" and "security" from an Israeli, thank you very much. It is so easy to light some candles, give some blood and mutter about evil deranged muslims.doesn't anybody ever ask themselves what islamic terrorism is REALLY about? It all stems

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Matt Anderson
Agreed. I'm fed up of people standing shoulder to shoulder with Manchester, or candlelit vigils or lighting up the Eiffel tower. Means nothing. Isis don't care. Job done crusaders are dead. All the Facebook flags in the world won't help I'm pretty sure this was the one that got though and

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread {broken-address} Richard Walker
agreed, business as usual is what got us into this mess. Burying our heads in the sand and continuing as if nothing happened and the perspective this guy was just a lone nutter will solve nothing.  All these people changing their facebook profile pics,  holding placards and calling for

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread Michael Benjamin
It isn't business as usual. It never can be. It means vigilance and guards. It means profiling. It means dawn raids and searches. As I get on my El Al flights I am aghast at the armed presence. They can only make things worse. Sure, it's a feel good factor but if they open fire they'll kill a

Re: [LU] : Manchester

2017-05-24 Thread nat...@sky.com
I doubt anyone could see the picture of the 8 year old girl and not get upset - anyone normal that is !Odd feeling around the place at present - I went to the Lowry Theatre last night and it was business as usual- almost - they never usually do any sort bag checking but last night they did have