Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-02 Thread Steve Voght
With all due respect to everyone who keeps arguing that HTML messages are the bane of the world and the cause of problems on this list, the two biggest issues with the spam flagging are undoubtedly the onslaught of repetitive error messages about not being subscribed to the list (spam heuristics lo

RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-02 Thread Sherry/Support
Voght Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 2:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question) With all due respect to everyone who keeps arguing that HTML messages are the bane of the world and the cause of problems on this list, the t

Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-02 Thread Wynthner
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question) > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:13 PM > With all due respect to everyone who keeps ar

RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-02 Thread Wynthner
Then I *strongly* suggest you get new Mailing List Software. Just corious but what Mailing List software do you use? --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Sherry/Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Sherry/Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML i

Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-03 Thread Steve Voght
One thing to note with those error messages is that their subject line has two list names prefixing it: [LegacyUG] and [LegacyUserGroup]. All legitimate group messages are only prefixed by [LegacyUG]. This implies to me that there's an old (or alternate) list with the name [LegacyUserGroup] and som

RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-03 Thread ronald ferguson
dn't even recognize HTML. Browsers yes- E-Mail clients no.> > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > From: Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)> > To: L

RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-03 Thread John B. Lisle
s clients shouldn't even recognize HTML. Browsers yes- E-Mail clients no. > > > --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Steve Voght <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legac

Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-03 Thread Dennis Kowallek
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:27:16 -0800, "Steve Voght" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >(Below is a bit of speculation on my part, so all you Legacy users can >just ignore this and let the tech people laugh at my wild theories...) > >Perhaps Ken is sending messages to a listserv address associated with >[Leg

Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-03 Thread Ward Walker
"Wynthner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question) Sorry, but ALL users ahould have their e-mail client set to send ONLY in text. HTML should never, Never, NEVER, be used i

RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-03 Thread Wynthner
has come under continuing > attack, and, as such, the problems mount. > > We just need patience... > > john. > > > At 06:27 AM 12/3/2008, ronald ferguson wrote: > > This is not possible for many web based email senders, > and I, for one will only use this type on

RE: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-03 Thread John B. Lisle
: Rootsweb uses the Mailman Mailing List program which is a commercial program and has, in fact, restricted a lot of the bells and whistles it allows. --- On Wed, 12/3/08, John B. Lisle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: John B. Lisle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [LegacyU

Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-03 Thread Mike Fry
Ward Walker wrote: That's ridiculous. If I am sending e-mails to family and close friends, all of whom have broadband, I should be able to take advantage of modern formatting such as indenting, bolding, underlining, etc. Also, the word wrapping and general appearance of original messages should

Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-04 Thread Dennis Kowallek
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:05:40 -0500, "John B. Lisle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Legacy is a much smaller company than RootsWeb/Ancestry. I hope that >Legacy staff does not spend a lot of extra ergs of energy to build >and maintain an email system. But if they can't manage their mailing list, ho

Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-04 Thread John Carter
Perhaps the lack of attention to the mailing list server is because they are programmers and not system administrators? I've been there and done that for both jobs, including the mail administration. The jobs require different skill sets; if you haven't done both jobs, dont't make assumptions abo

Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-04 Thread Wynthner
As Sylvester the cat would say... "Exaticaly!" --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Dennis Kowallek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Dennis Kowallek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question) > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacy

Re: [LegacyUG] Listserv spam/HTML issues (Was: Legacy Question)

2008-12-04 Thread Tish
I think Ken has been hit with a virus, same as Geoff seemed to be awhile ago. They can't help it any more than we can - be patient, they will work it out. Tish On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:05:40 -0500, "John B. Lisle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Legacy is a much smaller company than RootsWeb/An