Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jul 2, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Nonetheless if > the OSM community wants a share-alike license, it has to use this > sort of > language. Indeed. Consider what you would say if a lawyer looked at a program and said "Why do we need all this codese?" -- Russ Nelson - ht

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Matt Amos wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ed Avis wrote: >> Matt Amos writes: >> >>>http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use >>>http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy >>>see also the terms at the bottom of every edit box. >> >> These te

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ed Avis wrote: > Matt Amos writes: > >>http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use >>http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy >>see also the terms at the bottom of every edit box. > > These terms and conditions don't try to impose an EULA on people >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] copyright for IGN maps from morocco

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Martin wrote: > I would like to know if it is allowed to trace over the maps from: > http://www.ml-datos.com/4/ficheros/mapas/marruecos/IGN%201-250.000/ Can you point us at a licence page, please? cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/copyright-for-IGN-maps-from

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ed Avis wrote: > The licence should not try to impose additional restrictions on > people beyond their own country's copyright law (and other applicable > laws such as database right). In which case OSM becomes public domain. I'm repeating myself, I'm afraid, but you can take two approaches wi

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ulf Möller wrote: >> I think if your planned licence change requires people to agree to >> these very lengthy and legalistic 'terms and conditions' then it's an >> indication that you are doing something wrong. > > It doesn't. It's just that during a review of the proposed license, a > lawye

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Avis
Ulf Möller writes: >>I think if your planned licence change requires people to agree to >>these very lengthy and legalistic 'terms and conditions' then it's an >>indication that you are doing something wrong. > >It doesn't. It's just that during a review of the proposed license, a >lawyer pointe

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Ulf Möller
Ed Avis schrieb: > I think if your planned licence change requires people to agree to > these very lengthy and legalistic 'terms and conditions' then it's an > indication that you are doing something wrong. It doesn't. It's just that during a review of the proposed license, a lawyer pointed out

[OSM-legal-talk] copyright for IGN maps from morocco

2009-07-02 Thread Martin
Hi I would like to know if it is allowed to trace over the maps from: http://www.ml-datos.com/4/ficheros/mapas/marruecos/IGN%201-250.000/ I already know that it is allowed for: http://www.madmappers.com/mapset.php?MS=182 http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/north_africa/ since they are listed in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Avis
Russ Nelson writes: >Some of the stuff is there to help enforce the database license. If >we had a license that didn't give us the occasion to sue anybody, we >wouldn't need terms like that, but in fact we DO plan to sue SOMEBODY, >sooner or later. And it's only reasonable to then be able

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Avis
Matt Amos writes: >http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use >http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy >see also the terms at the bottom of every edit box. These terms and conditions don't try to impose an EULA on people reading the site but give guidelines on uploading data, on

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Ed Avis wrote: > As far as I can tell Wikipedia doesn't have 'terms and conditions' on > the website, despite being equally dependent on user contributions and > with more scope for legal risk from libel, offensive content and so > on. http://wikimediafoundation.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Avis
I think if your planned licence change requires people to agree to these very lengthy and legalistic 'terms and conditions' then it's an indication that you are doing something wrong. As far as I can tell Wikipedia doesn't have 'terms and conditions' on the website, despite being equally dependent

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Avis
Gervase Markham writes: >>Can the manually located postboxes, based on OSM data and a list of >>postbox street locations from the Royal Mail, be added to OSM? > >Yes. But have you checked with Matthew Somerville, the author of that >tool? He says that as far as he is concerned the data is in th