Re: [OSM-legal-talk] distance calculations

2019-12-16 Thread Nuno Caldeira
it's a derivated, therefore share alike. I'm glad they trusted OSM data. On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, 15:25 , wrote: > Dear IANALs, > > I'm sorry to ask an additional question. > > A while ago, I've listened to a talk about navigation of pupils from their > home to the school - it was used to decide whe

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-16 Thread Nuno Caldeira
that's unfair, it is free, you don't have to pay for it. it just has a license, or else map companies would use our data On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, 02:19 , wrote: > > I didn't expected OpenStreetMap to be such non-free and permissive :-( > ___ legal-talk mai

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-13 Thread Nuno Caldeira
US and there is no US database protection law), a "derivative work" needs quite a bit of the original to qualify. The meaning of a "derivative work" was always much narrower than what a colloquial understanding of what "derived" might be, and the change in license d

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-13 Thread Nuno Caldeira
these new Liberal interpretation of ODbL are funny. to bad it's not documented what we wanted when we changed license. seems to be full of lies https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License *"This means that “good guys” are stopped from using our data but the “b

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread Nuno Caldeira
does contain derivate however,which means license applies On Thu, 12 Dec 2019, 19:46 , wrote: > > we are here to create more open data, not to feed proprietary data than > is lock under their TOS. > > I want to apologize for my misunderstanding: my final product does not > contain any OpenStreet

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread Nuno Caldeira
https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/index.html the license is quite clear and 4.2 applies to the case you mention. any use of OSM data (over 100 nodes) combined with proprietary data results in more open data under ODbL. we are here to create more open data, not to feed proprietary data t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ZIP codes from OSM in non-compatible licensed dataset

2019-10-10 Thread Nuno Caldeira
Extracting than 100 elements (non repeatable) from the databse accounts for substantial. Costs has nothing to do with the license. https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/index.html Às 20:20 de 10/10/2019, Lars-Daniel Weber escreveu: First of all, thanks for your answer. I had a long

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

2019-10-08 Thread Nuno Caldeira
well OSMF as the licensor can terminate the company rights under ODbL. Às 21:07 de 08/10/2019, Mateusz Konieczny escreveu: 8 Oct 2019, 20:36 by nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com: Up until they got contacted by OSMF to fix the attribution, nothing will happen and won't comply. They do not r

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

2019-10-08 Thread Nuno Caldeira
about their choice of using HERE, I'm not aware of the reason. OSM road network in Portugal is quite good. A terça, 8/10/2019, 20:39, Nuno Caldeira escreveu: > you understood me wrong. I meant it was a good example of compliance. it's > a fair and correct solution. don't

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

2019-10-08 Thread Nuno Caldeira
you understood me wrong. I meant it was a good example of compliance. it's a fair and correct solution. don't understand why others (including OSMF corporate members) don't do the same. A terça, 8/10/2019, 20:37, Clifford Snow escreveu: > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] I added MAPS.ME to list of entities using OSM data illegally (without proper attribution)

2019-10-08 Thread Nuno Caldeira
Sadly i have contacted them before. Not fixed. Also keep in mind that Moveit lists us  as "partners", which we obviously don't https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tranzmate Karta also does not https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kartatech.karta.gps and the funny