Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Lawyer responses to use cases, major problems

2009-03-02 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
on between a database and a produced work. At one end of the spectrum we have a relational database, at the other end we have raster image, and in the middle we have something like SVG. So where do we draw the line between a database and a derived work? How do we describe this line in the license

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Factual Information License and Produced Works?

2009-03-02 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
pecific jurisdictions in mind. The Sunburned Surveyor On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ulf Möller wrote: > 80n schrieb: > >> As far as I know there has been no attention paid to the FIL.  It was >> grabbed at the last minute from here > > It doesn't look like it has been

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL modules?

2008-11-23 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Andrew wrote: "Suggesting that someone can "just copy ... and strike out the words they don't like" is not actually an option. For one, this is a new license that has to be verified, vetted - and no one else will know what the implications are or ability to trust the license. And then we get into t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Announcement] new mailing list: legal-general

2008-10-31 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
will get a tick in the PD licence section (including the Use Case in the 'negative' list). As such it would make that page less partisan and possibly a useful meeting place for future decisions. Would that be useful?" I think this would be very useful. The Sunburned Surveyor On

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Suggestion for resolving PD/SA issue

2008-10-27 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Very good post Frederick, and a good suggestion. I'm working on getting an "official" OSM mailing list for PD discussions right now. The Sunburned Surveyor On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Joseph Gentle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:50 AM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contact Info For Tom Hughes Regarding Public Domain Mailing List

2008-10-21 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
What about a yahoo discussin group for OSM-PD? Would anyone object to that? Landon On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > >> Does anyone have the e-mail address for Tom Hughes so I could request >> the cre

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Starting Repository For Public Domain OSM Data

2008-10-21 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Nothing is ever as simple as you hope. :] Joseph wrote: "I don't think its that big a deal - we could just say "if you edit a node, your edits are also under the same PD license as the node is currently under" or something." I think this is a good solution to the problem mentioned above. Landon

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Starting Repository For Public Domain OSM Data

2008-10-16 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thanks for doing that initial work Kari. I've been home with the flu, so I've been a little out of the loop. I think we could make decisions based on an informal vote of the OSM contributors interested in PD. As things get more serious we can use a more formal governance structure, if one is neede

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Starting Repository For Public Domain OSM Data

2008-10-15 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
It seems our idea for a public domain repository of OSM data has some merit. This means we have some things to decide on. A name, what vehicle we will use to release the data under the public domain, a host for our mailing list, and a sponsor for our data hosting needs. Should we just fire up a Go

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using JOSM + Yahoo Maps Aerial Imagery for Public Domain Release

2008-10-10 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
What you stated makes sense. It's probably better not to make waves. I've got some USDA imagery I can use instead, although the resolution isn't as good. The Sunburned Surveyor On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using JOSM + Yahoo Maps Aerial Imagery for Public Domain Release

2008-10-10 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC Attribution Share Alike License with OSMF exception

2008-09-05 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
ples. The Sunburned Surveyor On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Joseph Gentle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its a compromise; a compromise which I think the purists on this list (most > of us) will disagree with. > > It does seem like a good way for the share-alike supporters to champion

[OSM-legal-talk] Three Ideas: Document Clarifying Intent, License Tag, and Contributor Agreement

2008-09-04 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
uff away. These are just some suggestions. Perhaps they have been discussed in the past already. The Sunburned Surveyor ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Public Domain versus CC Attribution Share Alike License

2008-09-04 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I seemed to have immersed myself in the depths of a healthy debate for which I was not prepared. I don't yet have a full understanding of all the issues, but I think some statements of Richard give a nice summary: "Yes, the new licence fixes 1 and 3. It also goes a long way to defining what is per