Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-25 Thread John Wilbanks
Steve wrote: John I would assert that you're more worried about perceived competition for your licenses JTW says: If this were the case, we'd have taken in the ODbL, or we'd have written something like it. With CC's position in the licensing space it'd have been quickly adopted - people

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:37 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 25 Mar 2009, at 11:34, Andy Allan wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:36 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 22 Mar 2009, at 06:08, 80n wrote

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-25 Thread Rob Myers
SteveC wrote: No I think there are some substantial issues, but they're inflated because of the PoV. I didn't have a chance to get to Science Commons while I was in Boston last week but I did talk to various people who are Smarter Than Me (tm) from the FSF and CC and none of them supported

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ulf Möller wrote: Thinh Nguyen of Creative Commons has posted detailed comments on the ODbL on the co-ment website. Though I have a lot of time for CC in general, and agree with their general stance that PD is the ideal way to go, I don't really find that a very useful response. I count 20

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-22 Thread Simon Ward
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:39:01AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: What I wanted to say was that, to a certain degree, *any* certainty is better than a random assortment of may, might, the project consensus seems to be that..., i am not a lawyer but..., depending on your jurisdiction, and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-22 Thread 80n
Thinh Nguyen of Creative Commons writes: While some complexities are introduced by differences in background legal doctrines, others are introduced by the ODbL scheme itself. These two points about the complexity of the ODbL are important ones that probably haven't been discussed as much as

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL comments from Creative Commons

2009-03-21 Thread Ulf Möller
Thinh Nguyen of Creative Commons has posted detailed comments on the ODbL on the co-ment website. That site isn't really suitable for longer texts, so I have copied it to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ODbL_comments_from_Creative_Commons ___