Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/3 Phil Monger : > I want OSM to be used in this way, but properly - and with according > advantages given to end users. Companies *need to know* they > cannot assert copyright over the mapping they take in this way. +1 cheers, Martin ___ legal-

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Oliver (skobbler) wrote: > I just want to create a situation where people are > aware that abusing OSM data leads to consequences so that is becomes a > trade-off like not buying a ticket for train. If too many people use the train without paying then the operator will go bust. If too many

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Oliver (skobbler) wrote: > In addition we > should put a sentence that they can make donation to OpenStreetMap and the > community forgets about the mistake. Otherwise the OSMF might take further > legal actions. You mean as in "Dear Mr President, I've got this photo showing you in bed with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Albertas Agejevas
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 01:25:50AM +0100, Phil Monger wrote: > -Work out a 10 mile cycle trip or walk around your town / city, taking > advantage of sights you want to see, streets you know are good for it, ect. > Cycle it once or twice, getting distracted and taking twice as long as > needed to ta

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
n to OSM data. If nothing happens many companies might take advantage... Regards, Oliver -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-Potential-huge-License-violation-anyone-know-anything-about-this-tp5132343p5134658.html Sent

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Phil Monger wrote: > Well, Frederik, here is a challenge: > -Work out a 10 mile cycle trip or walk around your town / city, taking > advantage of sights you want to see, streets you know are good for it, ect. > Cycle it once or twice, getting distracted and taking t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
this. >> >> As I said, I would be quite cross if someone were to distribute scanned >> copies of my book because I don't believe that depicting OSM maps in it >> makes the whole thing derived. >> >> But it is an interesting question - if someone violates C

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Phil Monger
Well, Frederik, here is a challenge: -Work out a 10 mile cycle trip or walk around your town / city, taking advantage of sights you want to see, streets you know are good for it, ect. Cycle it once or twice, getting distracted and taking twice as long as needed to take photographs on the way round

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Phil Monger wrote: > This is entirely derivative. The maps and route descriptions operate > together as *one piece of work* - indeed descriptions of the ways, place > names, distances, directions (ect) used in *the text* are taken from > *the mapping*. The text couldn't / wouldn't be there

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Phil, > > Phil Monger wrote: >> It's a new cycle book for London, with routes, etc. Pretty standard >> fare. The problem? All the maps inside are blatant OSM copies (Mapnik, I >> assume) with route overlays posted. Now this wouldn't be a prob

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Phil Monger
Frederick, I appreciate your view on this. but I must passionately disagree. "Collected works" is set up to allow multiple sets of data / licenses to operate together under one "bound" work. For example, a book of collected maps about London could include OSM as CC-BY-SA but in itself, as a colle

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Phil, Phil Monger wrote: > It's a new cycle book for London, with routes, etc. Pretty standard > fare. The problem? All the maps inside are blatant OSM copies (Mapnik, I > assume) with route overlays posted. Now this wouldn't be a problem, > obviously, except they are way WAY outside of CC-BY-S

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread SteveC
That's actually a pretty bad way to resolve the issue, since the publisher is liable for damages and you can absolve them of that and make things far worse by individually contacting or publishing these infringements pre-emptively. Unless you have a law degree. Individuals enforcing infringeme

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread SteveC
The LWG has been working with council on similar infringement cases. I suggest this gets added. As an aside, this is exactly what happened to some of my work a few years ago. On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Phil Monger wrote: > So I was looking through some cycle books, as you do, when I came acros

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 2 June 2010 21:03, Phil Monger wrote: > So I was looking through some cycle books, as you do, when I came across > this one (i've hosted the images 3rd party and avoided HTML, if > they don't work let me know. I had to snap them on the iPhone - so sorry for > the lack of a close focus!!) : Hi

[OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-02 Thread Phil Monger
So I was looking through some cycle books, as you do, when I came across this one (i've hosted the images 3rd party and avoided HTML, if they don't work let me know. I had to snap them on the iPhone - so sorry for the lack of a close focus!!) : http://img249.imageshack.us/i/img0002tw.jpg/ It's a