Hi,
On 22.07.2012 08:43, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
So, conveying your work to a
another entity and not the general public does not count as
"publishing".
I think that as far as viral licenses are concerned, the "public" is
anyone who is not yourself, or part of your own organisation.
I thi
Hi,
On 22.07.2012 00:22, Paul Norman wrote:
If CC4 comes out with such indiscrimante inclusion of database rights
then my guess is that it will either be automatically impossible to
licene Produced Works under CC, or we will have to explicitly disallow
it.
I'm not sure who you mean by we in th
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> If it were any different, you could team up with a co-publisher, publish
> your ODbL Produced Works to him and he forwards them to the world without
> you ever having to release anything. It would be a loophole that demands
> quick fixing ;)
> From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org]
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:30 PM
> To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL "Produced
> Work" maps in Wikipedia
>
> Hi,
>
> On 21.07.2012
Hi,
On 21.07.2012 21:33, Paul Norman wrote:
CC 4.0 licenses explicitly include database rights (sec. 1 (b) of draft 1).
How will this work when 4.0 is published and CC BY-SA tiles include the
database rights?
Also an interesting question but one that would probably have to be
addressed to the
Hi,
On 21 July 2012 21:04, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> On 21.07.2012 20:44, Adrian Frith wrote:
> If it were any different, you could team up with a co-publisher, publish
> your ODbL Produced Works to him and he forwards them to the world without
> you ever having to release anything. It would be a lo
> From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org]
> Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Some questions about using ODbL "Produced
> Work" maps in Wikipedia
>
> The currently accepted wisdom is that there exists a separate channel,
> apart from copyright, in which database r
Hi,
On 21.07.2012 20:44, Adrian Frith wrote:
Does this mean that, in my scenario, the only recipient to whom I have
an obligation under ODbL sec. 4.6 is the Wikimedia Foundation?
Everyone else who receives it receives it from WMF under CC-BY-SA and
they have no claim on me?
This is an interest
On 21.07.2012 20:10, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> On 21.07.2012 18:19, Adrian Frith wrote:
>> Do we really have to include the full notice "Contains information from
>> OpenStreetMap, which is made available here under the Open Database
>> License (ODbL)" in the caption of every use of an OSM-derived map
Hi again,
On 21 July 2012 20:10, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> On 21.07.2012 18:19, Adrian Frith wrote:
>>
>> Do we really have to include the full notice "Contains information from
>> OpenStreetMap, which is made available here under the Open Database
>> License (ODbL)" in the caption of every use of a
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> (If anyone wants to pursue this discussion I would very much ask them to
> peruse the mailing list archives with the search term "reverse engineering"
> and read up on past discussions so that we don't have to repeat ourselves.)
Ok, thanks
Hi,
On 21.07.2012 20:18, Mike Dupont wrote:
No. The Produced Work you create is uploaded to Wikipedia under
CC-BY-SA and that's all that counts. CC-BY-SA would not allow
additional conditions (e.g. the making available of a source
database) anyway. The "Created from OdBL-licensed
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> No. The Produced Work you create is uploaded to Wikipedia under CC-BY-SA
> and that's all that counts. CC-BY-SA would not allow additional conditions
> (e.g. the making available of a source database) anyway. The "Created from
> OdBL-license
Hi,
On 21.07.2012 18:19, Adrian Frith wrote:
Do we really have to include the full notice "Contains information from
OpenStreetMap, which is made available here under the Open Database
License (ODbL)" in the caption of every use of an OSM-derived map in a
Wikipedia article?
I don't know if the
Hi legal-talk,
I have a couple of questions about the use of map images, which I
understand to be ODbL "Produced Works", in Wikipedia. I've tried to
find answers on the OSM wiki but I haven't seen anything addressing
them.
1. The attribution requirement. ODbL says:
>4.3 Notice for using output (
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