Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-10 Thread edodd
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: I have said consistently that the Australian section of the map stands to lose an enormous amount of data in a change to ODbL. This is a strawman argument. If - and I really mean if - If we had to remove the Australian

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Oliver (skobbler) wrote: Sure, any Derivative Database that is made available to a 3rd party falls under the share-alike. No doubt about that. This handled in section 4.4. The exceptions are handled in the following section 4.5. In case of your Produced Work, you make the Produced Work

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-08 Thread Liz
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010, Oliver (skobbler) wrote: But if you make a produced work (actually, if you publicly use said produced work), then the derived database must be shared in any case (4.4a and 4.4c). I think I you are right with the only limitation that the sharing is covered in 4.6 whereas

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-08 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-public-transport-routing-and-OSM-ODbL-tp5265671p5270065.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-08 Thread Matt Amos
I agree with Andy. This is what I understand the ODbL to be saying. Unfortunately, as with any legal text, its difficult to read and this is an unavoidable consequence of the legal system. If you need interpretation of the license, new or old, the best route may be to consult a lawyer. Cheers,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-07 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
, Oliver -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-public-transport-routing-and-OSM-ODbL-tp5265671p5267171.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Oliver (skobbler) wrote: a derivative database that is only used to create a Produced Work is excluded from the share-alike: 4.5 Limits of Share Alike. The requirements of Section 4.4 (Share-alike, remark Oliver) do not apply in the following: a. [..] b. Using this Database,