Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-08 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 8 July 2016 at 23:47, Simon Poole wrote: > Both the Horizontal Layer and the Collective Database guidelines address > a specific de-duplication issue (in respect to the above use case): if > you take your proprietary dataset and remove all POIs from the OSM > dataset that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-08 Thread Diane Peters
Do you mind expanding on what you mean when you say CC hasn't addressed the viral nature of BY 4.0 relative to databases? Trying to understand. Diane M. Peters General Counsel, Creative Commons Portland, Oregon http://creativecommons.org/staff#dianepeters 13:00-21:00 UTC On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-08 Thread Simon Poole
> > There are no substantial differences between the CC BY 3.0 and the CC BY > 4.0 licences. A summary of the differences can be found here: > https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/licensing-considerations/version4/. > > CC BY 4.0 (like CC BY 3.0) does not prevent OpenStreetMap from

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-08 Thread Ilya Zverev
Thanks for raising the issue. We at maps.me tried to follow the license: basically we are combining the OSM data without certain nodes (see the list of ids at http://direct.mapswithme.com/direct/latest/skipped_nodes.lst ) and a proprietary data set for hotels. Since we do not use any OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-08 Thread Simon Poole
Am 08.07.2016 um 14:52 schrieb Andrew Harvey: > According to [1] if someone combines non-horizontal layers together, > the results must be shared under the ODBL. No. First a general remark: A data consumer that is not complying with the ODbL always has two options to comply with the licence:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-08 Thread Peter
But what if this is just a layer above the OSM data technically? Regards Peter On 08.07.2016 15:15, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Maps.me made an announcement in the last update that they are using > Booking.com data to show hotels and allow reserving hotel rooms from > within the app. I doubt

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-08 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maps.me made an announcement in the last update that they are using Booking.com data to show hotels and allow reserving hotel rooms from within the app. I doubt Booking.com released their data with a permissive license. Janko Mihelić pet, 8. srp 2016. u 14:54 Andrew Harvey

[OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-08 Thread Andrew Harvey
According to [1] if someone combines non-horizontal layers together, the results must be shared under the ODBL. From my investigation it appears that the MAPS.ME app [2] is combining OSM hotels with non-OSM hotels. https://tianjara.net/hosted/maps.me-1.png is a screenshot from the app. Hotel A

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-08 Thread Simon Poole
Unluckily this simply confirms that the data cannot be included in OSM. As I pointed out before, this is simply an indirect subsidy of the producers of proprietary data and closed systems. Simon Am 08.07.2016 um 03:15 schrieb cleary: > The issue of using the Australian PSMA Administrative