On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Marcel Franke <
kugelfischtemp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> Edward K. Ream wrote:
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>> What speaks against a traditional executable package? py2exe
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>> The py2exe is windows only, and afaik does not support including
>> (downloading, unpacki
Edward K. Ream wrote:
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> What speaks against a traditional executable package? py2exe
>> [snip]
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> The py2exe is windows only, and afaik does not support including
> (downloading, unpacking) the appropriate Qt code. Neither does NSIS,
> again afaik.
>
No, it's possible to package Py
Great idea.
Again, we are talking about 2 different scenarios:
- demonstrate to folks why they would benefit from Leo, beyond 'outlining'
- decrease the effort required to have Leo available to run on their system
once they have decided it's worth some effort.
An .iso file is another good approa
Hi,
On 17/10/15 10:06, Edward K. Ream wrote:
However, imo, installation issues are actually not all that important,
given Leo's intended audience. In my mind, that includes is
programmers, web designers and anyone else who is, or might be,
comfortable with Python scripting. This includes al
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 9:51 PM, ne1uno wrote:
> anyone else find it humorous to start off a post about making
> installs easier by saying it's already easy to install?
>
I don't know why you find this either humorous or unusual. Making
installation twice as easy can easily require 10 to 100 t
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Marcel Franke <
kugelfischtemp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> Kent Tenney wrote:
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> Yeah, I've been very impressed with the ease of installing
>> and upgrading Calibre.
>>
>> Do you have insight into how they prepare their installer?
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>
> You can find the code un
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Marcel Franke <
kugelfischtemp...@googlemail.com> wrote:
What speaks against a traditional executable package? py2exe
> [snip]
>
The py2exe is windows only, and afaik does not support including
(downloading, unpacking) the appropriate Qt code. Neither does NSI
one other option I missed if it was mentioned
similar to the VM solution:
live CD. anyone already running one of many VM programs like virtualbox
can run the ISO directly.
anyone else can burn a CD/DVD or install on a bootable flash drive.
use a self contained small nix distro.
Proteus is one that
anyone else find it humorous to start off a post about making
installs easier by saying it's already easy to install?
ya really have to have gotten the memo by now that it ain't,
with respect, I know how many ways this problem has been approached.
just a few weeks ago I need a speedier python prog
Hi Don,
Thanks for your comments. Surely pip works well, the problem is
installing it when machines have not proper permissions or for a newbie.
I have tested these environments and that's why I would suggest
something like a portable app (may be the ebook platform recommended
that is also po
A couple of comments from a Python on Windows programmer:
* pip works well on Windows -- I do a lot of Python programming, and
have never had a problem installing packages using pip
* I've generally had success using PyInstaller to create distributable
executables. It's not easy, though
Kent Tenney wrote:
Yeah, I've been very impressed with the ease of installing
> and upgrading Calibre.
>
> Do you have insight into how they prepare their installer?
>
You can find the code under
https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibre/tree/master/setup
Seems they have their own toolchain, in
Yeah, I've been very impressed with the ease of installing
and upgrading Calibre.
Do you have insight into how they prepare their installer?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Chris George wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I will once again recommend the calibre approach. It is multi-platform, has
> deeply
Hello all,
I will once again recommend the calibre approach. It is multi-platform, has
deeply impenetrable dependencies and uses a one-click installer on all
three platforms.
http://calibre-ebook.com/
Chris
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Marcel Franke <
kugelfischtemp...@googlemail.com> wrote
Kent Tenney wrote:
Given Leo's programmability and vast number of plugins, it is really
> a platform for building things, and a learning curve is involved.
> Getting it installed correctly and painlessly is required but doesn't
> help in understanding what power is available.
>
>
See, VM and
FTR, VirtualBox is for all platforms
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Leo needs standard install scenarios, but the VM has a different
goal, exposing people to Leo's capabilities, convincing them that
it is worth investing time and effort into another tool.
Given Leo's programmability an
Edward K. Ream wrote:
In essence, this file would be a VM (Virtual Machine) containing:
>
VMs are heavy on the performance, need additional software and integrate
bad into the system.
Also, VMs need an underlying OS, which would mean some Linux-Distribution
which run parallel
to the existing
A VM is heavy, and overkill as long as the alternative
can provide the same degree of 'just works', which I
think is the goal.
The VM also offers the benefit of a richer introduction:
any number of sample files, videos etc. all as links on the
desktop.
Right, it wouldn't offer access to host mach
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:09:23 -0500
Kent Tenney wrote:
> VirtualBox is an app you download and install,
> then you download the VM.
>
> VirtualBox runs the VM, offering a desktop which acts like a real
> computer, so it's still 2 step, but easy to do and a fairly common way
> to offer configurati
Hi,
Nice to see this finally addressed. I proposed something like Portable
Apps packaging for Leo years ago and I think is the best approach for
Windows. I tried to show leo to teachers and students and the main
problem is installation permissions on windows machines. Having a
trouble install
VirtualBox is an app you download and install,
then you download the VM.
VirtualBox runs the VM, offering a desktop which acts like a real computer,
so it's still 2 step, but easy to do and a fairly common way
to offer configuration-free evaluation of software.
Docker is entirely free, not sure w
I had an enjoyable conversation with Kent Tenney yesterday on this topic.
Here are some notes, with some additional thoughts.
tl;dr: Only one-step solutions would seem to be a real improvements.
Possibilities include pip install and executable files that create VM's.
I welcome any comments.
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