Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Jim Gifford wrote: > I just started to play around with extlinux, just started to do my > testing, it does come premade already, but looks like it could be > built with a standard compiler. I'll give feedback as I progress. extlinux looks different (...obviously! ;-) ), but it may work fairly wel

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Jim Gifford
Bryan, I just started to play around with extlinux, just started to do my testing, it does come premade already, but looks like it could be built with a standard compiler. I'll give feedback as I progress. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscrat

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Can we please put aside the egos and pointing fingers and work together > to reach the common goal? Absolutely. More than anything, I got a chuckle this morning reading this thread and ended up posting something that was actually just me thinking out loud. I apologize f

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Jim Gifford wrote: > As far as udev rules, CLFS has made the move to use the rules that > have been included for over a year with no issues at all. Great! :-) That (well: the fact that you've seen no issues, at least) means we can very likely do the same: drop udev-config entirely and go with ud

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jim Gifford wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: >>> >> Too bad that they don't practice what they preach. >> >> > Gee this what your looking for http://cblfs.cross-lfs.org/index.php/License > > I see credit given? You owe an apology. C'mon guys. This is the type of stuff that creates the rift

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Charles wrote: > Hi LFS and CLFS developers, > > As an ardent follower of these projects, I'd be very glad to see the > two projects be one. In my opinion, they are gaining the same result > by different techniques. If DIY is trying some cross compiling and LFS > may go after it, then what's left

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Jim Gifford
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Jim Gifford wrote: > > >> I also hope anything from what people have done towards the LFS's 7.0 >> goal, that the appropriate credit is giving. >> > > This is funny. > > They copy hundreds of BLFS pages (verbatim, mind you) into > the work at http://cblfs.cross-lfs.

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jim Gifford wrote: > I also hope anything from what people have done towards the LFS's 7.0 > goal, that the appropriate credit is giving. This is funny. They copy hundreds of BLFS pages (verbatim, mind you) into the work at http://cblfs.cross-lfs.org/index.php/Main_Page and don't mention anywhe

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Charles
Hi LFS and CLFS developers, As an ardent follower of these projects, I'd be very glad to see the two projects be one. In my opinion, they are gaining the same result by different techniques. If DIY is trying some cross compiling and LFS may go after it, then what's left to the name CLFS? I think i

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Can we resolve any actual differences between the projects (and > individuals making up the projects) and put aside any perceived disputes > and work together in a more unified manner again? If so, what are we > willing to do to be more unified? What possibilities are t

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Zachary Kotlarek
On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:03 AM, Jim Gifford wrote: David Miller constantly gets on his soapbox about this on the Sparc Realm of linux. I don't disagree per se -- I've given up on pure64 for desktop builds for the moment -- but to be fair x86 has a lot more to gain running standard apps in 6

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jim Gifford wrote: > It seems now that LFS is ready to go into the world that CLFS has been > in for a while. There seems to be a lot of discussions, that are going > to be a duplication of work, and no one from LFS reaching out to the > CLFS team for input on what issues we have seen and what y

Re: Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jim Gifford wrote: > It seems now that LFS is ready to go into the world that CLFS has been > in for a while. There seems to be a lot of discussions, that are going > to be a duplication of work, and no one from LFS reaching out to the > CLFS team for input on what issues we have seen and what y

Future LFS 7.x Plans

2008-12-05 Thread Jim Gifford
It seems now that LFS is ready to go into the world that CLFS has been in for a while. There seems to be a lot of discussions, that are going to be a duplication of work, and no one from LFS reaching out to the CLFS team for input on what issues we have seen and what you will cross. It was prop