Re: [lfs-support] systemd versus sysvinit

2014-02-17 Thread Richard
As a new and inexperienced member of an established community, I try to keep my mouth shut and avoid interfering. Occasionally I feel strongly enough on a subject to speak out and I hope that the below does not upset too many people... - Original Message - From: Frans de Boer

Re: [lfs-support] Basic Kernel Configuration

2014-02-17 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 16-02-2014 12:49, Armin K. escreveu: On 02/16/2014 02:38 AM, Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 01:04:12AM +0100, Armin K. wrote: Hello there, I have been spending my time on LFS IRC for a long time now and have noticed that most users who come for help there get stuck at

Re: [lfs-support] [Clfs-support] CLFS eudev vs LFS udev

2014-02-17 Thread William Harrington
On Feb 16, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Alexey Orishko wrote: I'm aiming at minimum changes needed while moving from legacy udev. Since udev was merged with systemd, Gentoo crated eudev which is explained here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/eudev/ LFS extracted udev from systemd and created Makefile

Re: [blfs-support] WebKitGTK-1/Flash

2014-02-17 Thread Aleksandar Kuktin
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 12:17:29 + (GMT) Richard r_j_humphr...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: In keeping with the theme of Fernando's original suggestion, I have the source for 'surf' and it was simple to add a dozen lines of C to iterate over the entire plugin list and output the descriptions (and

Re: [lfs-support] Basic Kernel Configuration

2014-02-17 Thread Armin K.
On 02/17/2014 12:14 PM, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: It is a very good work, would have saved me some days, perhaps months, as the first build, I gave up, in the past. Thanks. Optional, for VMware virtual machines: it could be interpreted incorrectly as optional for VM... I would think that

Re: [lfs-support] systemd versus sysvinit

2014-02-17 Thread Frans de Boer
On 02/16/2014 12:59 PM, Frans de Boer wrote: Dear All, It looks like most Linux distributions are switching to systemd from sysvinit. As Bruce is even one of the (co-?)authors of systemd, the knowledge is already in the house. Why would (x)LFS stick to sysvinit while the rest of the world is

[lfs-support] /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread joel kammet
Greetings. Working my way through my first build of LFS 7.4.  I'm wondering, after building and installing all of the packages in Chapter 6, can the /tools directory be deleted?  I see that find and strip are used in Section 6.65, but we have new copies of those in /bin and /usr/bin. Also,

Re: [lfs-support] /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
joel kammet wrote: Greetings. Working my way through my first build of LFS 7.4. I'm wondering, after building and installing all of the packages in Chapter 6, can the /tools directory be deleted? I see that find and strip are used in Section 6.65, but we have new copies of those in /bin

Re: [lfs-support] /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread joel kammet
But why do you still use /tools/bin/  for bash, file, strip on page 202? From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: joel kammet jkam...@yahoo.com; LFS Support List lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 7:09 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [lfs-support] /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
joel kammet wrote: But why do you still use /tools/bin/ for bash, file, strip on page 202? Please don't top post. What is on page 202? We work from section numbers/names, not the pdf. The page numbers can change, sometimes radically during a nightly build. -- Bruce --

[lfs-support] Fw: Re: /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread joel kammet
--- On Mon, 2/17/14, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [lfs-support] /tools directory To: joel kammet jkam...@yahoo.com, LFS Support List lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Date: Monday, February 17, 2014, 10:34 PM joel kammet

Re: [lfs-support] Fw: Re: /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
joel kammet wrote: Section 6.65, Stripping Again uses /tools/bin/bash when re-entering the chroot environment and then /tools/bin/find and /tools/bin/strip. I don't suppose it matters, but I was just wondering if there was any particular reason that you don't use the bash, find and strip that

[lfs-support] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: /tools directory

2014-02-17 Thread joel kammet
--- On Mon, 2/17/14, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: That's so we don't operate (strip) on a running program.  After that's done, look at 6.66. Cleaning Up.  At that point we are done with /tools. I see - finally :) Thanks again. -Joel --