Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-12-01 Thread akhiezer
> From: Paul Rogers > To: lfs-support@lists.linuxfromscratch.org > Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 14:39:03 -0800 > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd > . . > > I also have to agree with Bruce, Well, you're both allowed to be wrong, of course.

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-12-01 Thread Paul Rogers
> On 11/30/2014 10:14 PM, Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers wrote: > > On Saturday 29 November 2014 21:21:50 Paul Rogers wrote: > > > >> > I'm inclined to give up on systemd ( I don't want, like or need > >> > more complexity) For the record, nothing of what I posted was picked-up in any of the subsequent pos

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-12-01 Thread akhiezer
> From: "Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers" > To: LFS Support List > Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 10:56:24 +0100 > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd > > On Sunday 30 November 2014 21:00:11 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > I don't think these comments are called f

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-12-01 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 08:20:59 + > From: lf...@cruziero.com (akhiezer) > To: LFS Support List > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd > . . > the second is more non-sequitir. > - or even '...-sequitur' . -- -- http://list

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-12-01 Thread Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers
On Sunday 30 November 2014 21:00:11 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I don't think these comments are called for. Not everyone follows > development issues. I did not now about it, I am just a user. And it is not important for the issue what I think. Bruce: thank you very much for your explanations Two

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-12-01 Thread Tim Tassonis
On 11/30/2014 10:14 PM, Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers wrote: > On Saturday 29 November 2014 21:21:50 Paul Rogers wrote: > >> > I'm inclined to give up on systemd ( I don't want, like or need more > >> > complexity) > > is systemd really more complex ? Yes, it is way more complex, as it is doing way mor

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-12-01 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 15:42:42 -0600 > From: Bruce Dubbs > To: LFS Support List > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd > > Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers wrote: > > On Saturday 29 November 2014 21:21:50 Paul Rogers wrote: > >>> I'm inclined to give u

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-12-01 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 21:00:11 -0600 > From: Bruce Dubbs > To: LFS Support List > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd > > lf...@cruziero.com (akhiezer) wrote: > >> From: "Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers" > >> To: LFS Support List > >>

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
lf...@cruziero.com (akhiezer) wrote: From: "Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers" To: LFS Support List Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:14:34 +0100 Subject: Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd On Saturday 29 November 2014 21:21:50 Paul Rogers wrote: I'm inclined to give up on systemd ( I don&

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-30 Thread akhiezer
> From: "Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers" > To: LFS Support List > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:14:34 +0100 > Subject: Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd > > > On Saturday 29 November 2014 21:21:50 Paul Rogers wrote: > > > I'm inclined to give up

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Armin K.
On 01.12.2014 00:55, Ian Macdonald wrote: > > P.S. The link to the build logs in Chapter 4 is still not working. > There are no logs for development version of the book. I should add a note about that. -- Note: My last name is not Krejzi. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signatur

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Ian Macdonald
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:27:10 + Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:14:34PM +0100, Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers wrote: > > > I personally dont understand why "systemd flame wars" happened. > > With many thanks to _all_ developers, > > That is no reason to try to start another systemd fl

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:14:34PM +0100, Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers wrote: > I personally dont understand why "systemd flame wars" happened. > With many thanks to _all_ developers, That is no reason to try to start another systemd flame war ;-) Use whatever you wish, but do not force it on the res

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers wrote: On Saturday 29 November 2014 21:21:50 Paul Rogers wrote: I'm inclined to give up on systemd ( I don't want, like or need more complexity) is systemd really more complex ? http://judecnelson.blogspot.com/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html Systemd is 245K lines

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers
On Saturday 29 November 2014 21:21:50 Paul Rogers wrote: > > I'm inclined to give up on systemd ( I don't want, like or need more > > complexity) is systemd really more complex ? I just finisched building my BLFS-Systemd and it is working like a charm. It was, sure, a little different to build. Bu

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-29 Thread Paul Rogers
> I'm inclined to give up on systemd ( I don't want, like or need more > complexity) but I worry that sooner or later there will be no choise > unless you can write your own boot scripts. Ian, I've been watching the systemd flame wars too, but not here. It seems to me the "client" for systemd is

[lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-28 Thread Ian Macdonald
Hi, I'm hesitant to post on this issue for a couple of reasons; systemd seems a little sensitive in the LFS world at the moment and, I'm going to be accused of not following the book. My excuse for the latter is that the book changed while I was building, without me noticing. My first attempt at