Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

> >>> I'm still on 48, and admit/agree that firefox upgrades are always > >>> something I face with some trepidation. I like the KISS principle, which > >>> seems foreign in Mozillaland. If it weren't for compatibility/usability > >>> issues I might go with something else. What I want from

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On 20/05/18 10:06, Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 08:29:14AM +1200, chris wrote: I'm still on 48, and admit/agree that firefox upgrades are always something I face with some trepidation. I like the KISS principle, which seems foreign in Mozillaland. If it weren't for

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 08:29:14AM +1200, chris wrote: > > > > I'm still on 48, and admit/agree that firefox upgrades are always something > > I face with some trepidation. I like the KISS principle, which seems > > foreign in Mozillaland. If it weren't for compatibility/usability issues I

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

I'm still on 48, and admit/agree that firefox upgrades are always something I face with some trepidation. I like the KISS principle, which seems foreign in Mozillaland. If it weren't for compatibility/usability issues I might go with something else. What I want from the WWW and what

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

> Since that was a reply to my reply, I'll bite: Thanks for doing so. I like having reports from travellers on the road ahead. ;-) > > I prefer to run current versions of graphical browsers, or their > engines (e.g. qtwebewngine for falkon, webkitgtk if somebody uses a > browser based on

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

Hello, Did you try the exactly commands as inside the lfs book 8.2 : cp -v configure{,.orig} && sed 's:/usr/local/bin:/bin:' configure.orig > configure && ./configure --prefix=/tools --with-tcl=/tools/lib

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:45:21PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > Gradually I have added to my machines, and I > realised that for me there was no benefit to updating anything older > than the previous release. > Yet again, I have managed to write ambiguously. What I meant was that I continue to

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 02:51:00PM -0700, Paul Rogers wrote: > > > ... But if you want to go on to build a desktop with a modern > > graphical browser then 8GB RAM (and even with that, maybe swap if you > > are doing other things during the compilation) is more comfortable. > > > > For a

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

> A little more to report on...I don't know how to understand this - Indeed, and that deserves some thought. > > As I mentioned, I repeated the whole exercise - right from setting up a > new VM with identical settings. Followed all the steps exactly, once > again. And everything is working

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On Wed, 16 May 2018 21:26:41 -0500 Bruce Dubbs wrote: > If it's a true OOM condition, then there should be something in a log. > If RAM is short, swap should handle it, although it slows things down. I agree ... if things otherwise work as they are supposed to. On Thu,

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

> > You're asking the compiler to "pull out all the stops" to algorithmically > > optimize code the programmer clearly did not intend for such optimization. > > The programmer is [supposed to be] intelligent, the compiler is not. And, > > as I'm sure we've all seen, some programmers abuse the

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:42:17PM -0400, Admin wrote: > > I would not be so certain about this. Today, 6GB RAM is not as much as you > > might think. For example, the short C++ code shown here: > > https://kristerw.blogspot.com/2017/10/excessive-gcc-memory-usage-for-large.html > > > >

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

A little more to report on...I don't know how to understand this - As I mentioned, I repeated the whole exercise - right from setting up a new VM with identical settings. Followed all the steps exactly, once again. And everything is working fine for tcl-8.6.8. It is compiling even with -O2.

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

> I would not be so certain about this. Today, 6GB RAM is not as much as you > might think. For example, the short C++ code shown here: > https://kristerw.blogspot.com/2017/10/excessive-gcc-memory-usage-for-large.html > > requires 8GB of RAM for gcc to compile. How real this concern is for

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On 05/16/2018 09:18 PM, Michael Shell wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2018 16:38:37 -0400 Admin wrote: BTW, the VM has enough resources - 6G RAM & 128 GB HDD (LFS partition). I would not be so certain about this. Today, 6GB RAM is not as much as you might think. For example,

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On Tue, 15 May 2018 16:38:37 -0400 Admin wrote: > BTW, the VM has enough resources - 6G RAM & 128 GB HDD (LFS partition). I would not be so certain about this. Today, 6GB RAM is not as much as you might think. For example, the short C++ code shown here:

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 03:26:53PM -0700, Paul Rogers wrote: > > I understand the reluctance to override the CFLAGS. But, as I have > > discovered the -O2 flag is causing the trouble. Could anyone point out > > to me how do I go about discovering the root cause? > > You're asking the compiler

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

> I understand the reluctance to override the CFLAGS. But, as I have > discovered the -O2 flag is causing the trouble. Could anyone point out > to me how do I go about discovering the root cause? You're asking the compiler to "pull out all the stops" to algorithmically optimize code the

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

> I wonder if gcc has become confused about the CPU which vmware is > presenting to it, and is trying to use instructions which are not > actually supported. > If this were the case, wouldn't the crash be reported by the system - core-dump or something for using an illegal instruction? But

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 10:58:17AM -0400, Admin wrote: > Sorry for the 'top-post' - didn't realize I was doing that. Hopefully this > should be OK now. > > I understand the reluctance to override the CFLAGS. But, as I have discovered > the -O2 flag is causing the trouble. Could anyone point out

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

Sorry for the 'top-post' - didn't realize I was doing that. Hopefully this should be OK now. I understand the reluctance to override the CFLAGS. But, as I have discovered the -O2 flag is causing the trouble. Could anyone point out to me how do I go about discovering the root cause? Given

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On 05/15/2018 09:46 PM, Admin wrote: OK. Some more progress I replaced the make calls with make CFLAGS='-O1 -g -fPIC' and everything seems to work fine, even the tests also ran OK - no errors (some tests were skipped by the script, but failed=0) With this, I am wondering is anything

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

Thanks Ken. Actually, I made some progress on the causes of the hang and observed that GCC optimization flag -O2 is causing the problem. When I manually remove -O2 and replace it with -O1 (line 6559 & line 7380 in configure script in unix folder) then the compilation seems to proceed properly.

Re: [lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 11:10:36AM -0400, Admin wrote: >Hello, >I am following the lfs book 8.2, using Debian-9.4.0 (64bit - amd64) inside >a VMWare Workstation 14. >All the steps leading upto 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) worked out fine. >With 5.11 (tcl), I am stuck with a strange

[lfs-support] Stuck at step 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) from lfs-8.2

Hello, I am following the lfs book 8.2, using Debian-9.4.0 (64bit - amd64) inside a VMWare Workstation 14. All the steps leading upto 5.11 (Tcl-core-8.6.8) worked out fine. With 5.11 (tcl), I am stuck with a strange problem. I don't see anyone mentioning this. Essentially, when I run make from