Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Yosem Companys
That was one reason Diaspora did well initially. They focused on good design and didn't open source that. There should be a civic Pivotal, like a Mozilla, to help sound technical projects do great design. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote: > Brian Conley wrote: >> >> I don't

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Griffin Boyce
Brian Conley wrote: > I don't think its always that superior technical solutions *can't* provide > better branding/usability, its that they choose NOT to, or in the past have > even demonized anyone who thinks there is value in such things. > > luckily this is changing! > B > I agree, but also

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Eric S Johnson
> I wrote to them and asked these questions, as well as a few others. > > What other questions should we pose to them, I wonder? Why are RU and CN (most glaringly) absent from the first chart enumerating the number (and type) of requests by country? It's hard to believe those countries' security

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Michael Carbone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone looked into the reports that Skype leaks your IP address? Apparently you do not have to interact with the person whose location you are interested in to be able to get their IP address. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/03/privacy-101-skype-leak

Re: [liberationtech] reply-all

2013-03-21 Thread Griffin Boyce
I totally agree. I love the discussions that ensue (even if my replies tend to be rather long) Crazy-long signatures and the contents of the last few messages aren't really necessary. ~Griffin On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Courtney Radsch wrote: > I vote reply all (list) as default. I lear

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Enrique Piraces
Reply to all. Best, Enrique Piracés Human Rights Watch https://www.hrw.org https://www.twitter.com/epiraces On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Yosem Companys wrote: Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's default "reply to" option

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Yosem Companys
Yes. I meant that the superior technical solution could not provide better branding/usability in my hypothetical example. There are plenty of examples of superior technologies having great branding. Case in point is Procter & Gamble, which is successful in part because it only makes marketing inv

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Brian Conley
+1 Yosem, except I take issue with the last point. I don't think its always that superior technical solutions *can't* provide better branding/usability, its that they choose NOT to, or in the past have even demonized anyone who thinks there is value in such things. luckily this is changing! B O

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Andrew Lewis
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Reply to all. NK On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Trinh Nguyen wrote: > reply-to-all > > -- > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/libera

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Trinh Nguyen
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Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread John Sullivan
Karl Fogel writes: > I vote that the list not munge the Reply-to header. > I would also support this option were it available. :) -john -- John Sullivan | Executive Director, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: 61A0963B | http://status.fsf.org/johns | http://fsf.org/blogs/RSS Do you use free s

Re: [liberationtech] Announcing a privacy preserving authentication protocol

2013-03-21 Thread Guido Witmond
On 03/21/2013 09:02 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: True, but phishing is not currently a solvable problem anyway; it falls into a class of problems that can't be solved no matter how much clever technology is developed because all of that technology presumes that end user systems are secure...and

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Yosem Companys
Rich, that's because you're not thinking like the average non-technical user, who usually does the following: The user hears from a friend that she can make calls for free over Skype. So she clicks on the Skype link. Skype has millions of users, meaning it will be around for a while. The Skype w

[liberationtech] Director of NSF's Division of Advanced Cyberinfrastructure

2013-03-21 Thread Yosem Companys
The National Science Foundation CISE Directorate is pleased to announce the formation of a search committee for the Director of the Division of Advanced Cyberinfrastructure (ACI, formerly the Office of Cyberinfrastructure). Dr. Alan Blatecky will be finishing his term as ACI Division Director at th

Re: [liberationtech] Commotion Beta is out: Free Wireless Mesh Network Software

2013-03-21 Thread Andrew Reynolds
Thanks James, The Commotion team is excited about the new developer release of the Commotion platform. We have already received several bug reports and feature requests following our initial DR1 binary upload a few days ago. This has helped us take steps towards bringing this from the current, uns

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 3/21/13 5:27 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > I don't agree with that reading of the report. There is likely a lot of > word-smithing here - for example, Does Skype include SkypeIn and > SkypeOut or just Peer to Peer video, text and storage of (other) > meta-data? Does CALEA happen on the Skype side

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Dan Auerbach
On 03/21/2013 10:37 AM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > Joseph Lorenzo Hall: >> > >> > >> > On Thu Mar 21 12:27:47 2013, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: >>> >> Joseph Lorenzo Hall: >>> Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for >>> content were fulfilled for Skype and the as

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:17:03PM -0400, Louis Su?rez-Potts wrote: > One is tempted to suggest using other than Skype. Alternatives exist, > and these are secure, at least according to their claims. As well, > Skype's code is not transparent, in the way that other, open source, > applications' are

Re: [liberationtech] Announcing a privacy preserving authentication protocol

2013-03-21 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 06:31:56PM -0500, Kyle Maxwell wrote: > A. This doesn't eliminate phishing because users will still enter > their credentials at a site that doesn't actually match the one where > the cert was previously signed. Otherwise, existing HTTPS controls > would already protect them

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-21 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 05:48:20AM -0400, Michael Allan wrote: > Pardon me, but that's not true. GNU Mailman is a decent list server > and it ships with reply-to-sender. You must go out of your way to > munge the Reply-to header. They recommend against it: > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/m

[liberationtech] Gentle reminder: Stanford STS Conference submissions due this Friday (tomorrow)

2013-03-21 Thread Morgan G. Ames
Greetings all, There is just one day until the deadline to submit 250-word abstracts to Stanford's first annual graduate STS conference. This is a gentle reminder to submit (or encourage students/colleagues to submit) abstracts and 50-word bios to governing.technol...@morganya.org. The full CFP

[liberationtech] Commotion Beta is out: Free Wireless Mesh Network Software

2013-03-21 Thread James Losey
Hi All, I wanted to share that OTI released Commotion Beta, free, open source, wireless networking platform this week. This “Developer Release #1” (DR1) makes Commotion’s technology available for testing and feedback and is freely available from the project website: www.commotionwireless.net. I wo

[liberationtech] US State Dept Discourages Using Technology to Promote Democracy, Human Rights, and Citizen Engagement in Ukraine?

2013-03-21 Thread Yosem Companys
Fostering Civic Engagement in Ukraine (approximately $500,000 available): DRL’s objective is to support the role of civil society in policy formation and enhancing accountability and responsiveness of government officials in Ukraine. The program will support civil society to foster an inclusive and

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Joseph Lorenzo Hall: > > > On Thu Mar 21 12:27:47 2013, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: >> Joseph Lorenzo Hall: >>> Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for >>> content were fulfilled for Skype and the associated FAQ [1] says CALEA >>> (the US law that mandates intercept capa

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Karl Fogel
I vote that the list not munge the Reply-to header. Some call this "reply-to-poster", but it really means leave Reply-to however the original poster set it. If OP set it to the list, that's fine; usually the OP sets it to their preferred personal address, of course. http://producingoss.com/en/ma

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Anthony Papillion
On 03/21/2013 05:58 AM, Andreas Bader wrote: > Louis Suárez-Potts: >> One is tempted to suggest using other than Skype. Alternatives exist, and >> these are secure, at least according to their claims. As well, Skype's code >> is not transparent, in the way that other, open source, applications' a

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Travis McCrea
No, it just shows that people didn't understand the rules of voting. Nothing else. Travis McCrea Pirate Party of Canada The Ultimate Ebook Library Kopimist Church of Idaho Phone: 1(206)552-8728 US Call/Text IRC: irc.freenode.net, irc.pirateirc.net (TeamColtra or TravisMcCrea) Web: travismccrea.c

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
On Thu Mar 21 12:27:47 2013, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: > Joseph Lorenzo Hall: >> Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for >> content were fulfilled for Skype and the associated FAQ [1] says CALEA >> (the US law that mandates intercept capability) does not apply to Skype

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Guido Witmond
On 03/21/2013 05:33 PM, Trevor Timm wrote: Man, I really wish even if people are voting reply-all that you vote by just replying to Yosef. This is spamming everyone's in box with dozens of emails. Doesn't it prove the point of reply-to-poster? Guido. -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Bill Best
On 21 March 2013 16:33, Trevor Timm wrote: > Man, I really wish even if people are voting reply-all that you vote by just > replying to Yosef. This is spamming everyone's in box with dozens of emails. I disagree. Like many people here I filter my emails. I can handle plenty more. Regards Bill

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Trevor Timm
Man, I really wish even if people are voting reply-all that you vote by just replying to Yosef. This is spamming everyone's in box with dozens of emails. On 3/21/13 9:30 AM, John Sullivan wrote: reply-to-all -john -- Trevor Timm Activist Electronic Frontier Foundation https://eff.org --

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread John Sullivan
reply-to-all -john -- John Sullivan | Executive Director, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: 61A0963B | http://status.fsf.org/johns | http://fsf.org/blogs/RSS Do you use free software? Donate to join the FSF and support freedom at . -- Too many ema

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Joseph Lorenzo Hall: > Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for > content were fulfilled for Skype and the associated FAQ [1] says CALEA > (the US law that mandates intercept capability) does not apply to Skype. > That seems particularly encouraging to me. > > The FAQ

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Joanne Michele
I vote to retain reply-to-all.  — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Yosem Companys wrote: > Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, > Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's > default "reply to" option from "reply-to-all" to "reply-to-post

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread James S. Tyre
Reply-to-all -- James S. Tyre Law Offices of James S. Tyre 10736 Jefferson Blvd., #512 Culver City, CA 90230-4969 310-839-4114/310-839-4602(fax) jst...@jstyre.com Policy Fellow, Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change passwo

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Stefan Geens
Re MSFT transparency, congrats on the result. In its FAQ. MSFT seems to answer quite unequivocally that Skype still encrypts Skype-Skype calls on a peer-to-peer basis: "We provide SSL encryption for Microsoft services and Skype-Skype calls on our full client (for full function computers) are en

Re: [liberationtech] reply-all

2013-03-21 Thread Dragana Kaurin
> I vote reply all (list) as default. I learn a lot from these > discussions, although I wish people could erase as much as possible of > the quoted email in their reply... > Courtney C. Radsch > crad...@gmail.com > agree! > Website: www.radsch.info

Re: [liberationtech] reply-all

2013-03-21 Thread Courtney Radsch
I vote reply all (list) as default. I learn a lot from these discussions, although I wish people could erase as much as possible of the quoted email in their reply... Courtney C. Radsch crad...@gmail.com Website: www.radsch.info Blog: http://arab-media.blogspot.com Twitter: courtneyr -- Too many e

Re: [liberationtech] Disturbing

2013-03-21 Thread Yosem Companys
That's right: Technology = Ideology + Materiality. And ideology is not a bad word, despite it's popular negative connotations. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Chris R Albon wrote: > As a political scientist: b. > As a international relations guy: uh, okay. > > I am continually amazed that

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Alan Stewart
reply-to-all Alan Stewart On 3/20/2013 6:17 PM, Yosem Companys wrote: Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's default "reply to" option from "reply-to-all" to "reply-to-poster." Given the debate (see links below), we have

Re: [liberationtech] Disturbing

2013-03-21 Thread Devon M T Loffreto
STEM? whats that? Difficult to drive educated outcomes in a Society that uses an employment model & mandate to operate its education system. Devon NoizIvy.org On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Chris R Albon wrote: > As a political scientist: b. > As a international relations guy: uh, okay.

Re: [liberationtech] Disturbing

2013-03-21 Thread Chris R Albon
As a political scientist: b. As a international relations guy: uh, okay. I am continually amazed that people continue to forget that STEM is embedded in a social, culture, economic, and yes, political context. Chris R. Albon ChrisRAlbon.com (http://ChrisRAlbon.com) On Thursday, March 21

[liberationtech] Disturbing

2013-03-21 Thread Yosem Companys
WASHINGTON, March 20, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following is being released by the American Political Science Association : (Logo: http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnh/20120604/DC18511LOGO-b ) This afternoon, the United States Senate delivered a devastatin

[liberationtech] Mozilla Persona - Getting rid of passwords on the web

2013-03-21 Thread Petter Ericson
Greetings, Though the video is very light on cryptographic background, it does do a good job of introducing the Mozilla ideas for a password-free web (except for your e-mail provider). Definitely worth watching, and potentially implementing, imo: http://pyvideo.org/video/1764 Best /P -- Pette

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Paul Bernal (LAW)
Well done!! Sent from my iPhone On 21 Mar 2013, at 14:10, "Nadim Kobeissi" mailto:na...@nadim.cc>> wrote: We did it! Our Skype Open Letter worked!!! *Pats self on back* NK On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:04 AM, James Losey mailto:lo...@newamerica.net>> wrote: >From the blog post: "As noted in

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for content were fulfilled for Skype and the associated FAQ [1] says CALEA (the US law that mandates intercept capability) does not apply to Skype. That seems particularly encouraging to me. The FAQ is also interesting in that the

Re: [liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
We did it! Our Skype Open Letter worked!!! *Pats self on back* NK On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:04 AM, James Losey wrote: > From the blog post: > > "As noted in the data table (available in the PDF below) in 2012, > Microsoft and Skype received a total of 75,378 law enforcement requests. > Thos

[liberationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests Report

2013-03-21 Thread James Losey
>From the blog post: "As noted in the data table (available in the PDF below) in 2012, Microsoft and Skype received a total of 75,378 law enforcement requests. Those requests potentially impacted 137,424 accounts. While it is not possible to directly compare the number of requests to the number of

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread elham gheytanchi
Reply to all. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Yosem Companys Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 01:17:39 To: Subject: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, Several of you have petitioned to change 

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Jillian C. York
reply to list/all. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Yosem Companys wrote: > Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, > > Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's > default "reply to" option from "reply-to-all" to "reply-to-poster." Given > the debate (see links below),

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Sarah A. Downey
Reply to poster as default. Thanks. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Collin Sullivan wrote: > I vote for reply-to-list as default. > > > Yosem Companys: > > Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, > > > > Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's > > default "reply to"

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Paul Bernal (LAW)
Reply to list, if possible. Kind regards Paul Dr Paul Bernal Lecturer UEA Law School University of East Anglia Norwich Research Park Norwich NR4 7TJ email: paul.ber...@uea.ac.uk Web: http://www.paulbernal.co.uk/ Blog: http://paulbernal.wordpress.com/ Twitter: @paul

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread xek3149
Reply to all (reply to list) () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.s

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Walid AL-SAQAF
reply-to-all Sincerely, Walid - Walid Al-Saqaf Founder & Administrator alkasir for mapping and circumventing cyber censorship https://alkasir.com PGP: https://alkasir.com/doc/admin_alkasir_pub_key.txt On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Tom Ritter wrote: > Reply to all > > --

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Yosem Companys: > Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, > > Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's > default "reply to" option from "reply-to-all" to "reply-to-poster." Given > the debate (see links below), we have decided to put the issue up for a > vote: > >

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Eric S Johnson: > Dear LibTechers, > > > > When Microsoft applied in 2009 for a patent on "recording agents" to surveil > peer-to-peer communications, it was assumed they were talking about > something they might implement in Skype. > Perhaps. > Skype in 2010 started rearchitecting its use o

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 13-03-21, at 06:58 , Andreas Bader wrote: > Louis Suárez-Potts: >> One is tempted to suggest using other than Skype. Alternatives exist, and >> these are secure, at least according to their claims. As well, Skype's code >> is not transparent, in the way that other, open source, applications

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Tom Ritter
Reply to all -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Bill Best
I vote for reply-to-all. Regards Bill Best -- Community Media Association http://www.commedia.org.uk/ http://twitter.com/community_media http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation On 21 March 2013 01:17, Yosem Companys wrote: > Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, > > Several of you ha

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread lilo
On 21/03/2013 12:36, Collin Sullivan wrote: > I vote for reply-to-list as default. reply-to-all > Yosem Companys: >> Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, >> >> Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's >> default "reply to" option from "reply-to-all" to "reply-to-po

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Collin Sullivan
I vote for reply-to-list as default. Yosem Companys: > Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, > > Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's > default "reply to" option from "reply-to-all" to "reply-to-poster." Given > the debate (see links below), we have decided to p

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-21 Thread Andreas Bader
Louis Suárez-Potts: > One is tempted to suggest using other than Skype. Alternatives exist, and > these are secure, at least according to their claims. As well, Skype's code > is not transparent, in the way that other, open source, applications' are. > > louis What alternative do you exactly m

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Guilherme Andrade
Reply-to-poster. Cheers, On 21/03/13 01:17 , Yosem Companys wrote: > Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, > > Several of you have petitioned to change Liberationtech mailing list's > default "reply to" option from "reply-to-all" to "reply-to-poster." > Given the debate (see links below), we ha

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Amin Sabeti
I'd like reply-to-all On 21 March 2013 09:10, Guido Witmond wrote: > Dear Yosem, > > I vote for reply-to-poster. > > Your message really points out the problem: You ask us to connect to you, > however, the reply button replies to the list. > > > My 2cts. Guido Witmond. > > > > > On 03/21/2013 02

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on "Reply to" Question

2013-03-21 Thread Guido Witmond
Dear Yosem, I vote for reply-to-poster. Your message really points out the problem: You ask us to connect to you, however, the reply button replies to the list. My 2cts. Guido Witmond. On 03/21/2013 02:17 AM, Yosem Companys wrote: Dear Liberationtech list subscribers, Several of you hav