Re: [liberationtech] CFAA Extremism

2013-09-23 Thread Shava Nerad
I'll see that Forbes article and raise it a white paper... https://www.eff.org/wp/clicks-bind-ways-users-agree-online-terms-service :) On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Griffin Boyce grif...@cryptolab.netwrote: This was sort of a meme around ten (+) years ago, and I couldn't find any

Re: [liberationtech] CFAA Extremism

2013-09-23 Thread Don Marti
begin Nick quotation of Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:42:07PM +0100: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 08:55:06PM -0400, Shava Nerad wrote: I have been tempted to write TOS that contract to promise rights to primageniture bondage and see what happens... I've definitely seen this on some website in the

Re: [liberationtech] CFAA Extremism

2013-09-23 Thread Robert W. Gehl
I gleefully plagiarized Facebook's TOS for my faux academic social network Professr(TM) - turns out, you don't need to make many changes to have a very aggressive set of terms! - Rob On 09/23/2013 08:56 AM, Don Marti wrote: begin Nick quotation of Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:42:07PM +0100: On Sun,

Re: [liberationtech] CFAA Extremism

2013-09-23 Thread Robert W. Gehl
Forgot to include the link: http://robertwgehl.org/professr_trial.php On 09/23/2013 09:14 AM, Robert W. Gehl wrote: I gleefully plagiarized Facebook's TOS for my faux academic social network Professr(TM) - turns out, you don't need to make many changes to have a very aggressive set of terms!

[liberationtech] CFAA Extremism

2013-09-22 Thread Scott Arciszewski
So, I've been wondering... If the CFAA makes it a felony to violate a website's terms of service, wouldn't the logical way to protest this absurd interpretation of the law to write Terms of Service that forbid members of the US government-- especially Congress and the Department of Justice-- from

Re: [liberationtech] CFAA Extremism

2013-09-22 Thread R. Jason Cronk
Individuals can't file criminal charges and it is up to law enforcement and prosecutor's discretion as to whether they do. They won't so you're out of luck there. You could file civil lawsuits as the CFAA has a right of civil action. However, you'd need to fund it with the high likelihood that

Re: [liberationtech] CFAA Extremism

2013-09-22 Thread Joseph Mornin
Do you have a link? On 9/22/13 11:51 AM, Griffin Boyce wrote: There are some really great unenforceable TOSs out there. The best I've seen is a clause which states that it is a violation of the Terms of Service to read the Terms of Service. (But of course, how would you know unless you

Re: [liberationtech] CFAA Extremism

2013-09-22 Thread Shava Nerad
People would be generally safe, since my experience is that only dweebs such as ourselves ever read them. ;) Everyone else ticks off the box and moves on. I have been tempted to write TOS that contract to promise rights to primageniture bondage and see what happens... yrs, On Sun, Sep 22,