Re: [liberationtech] IPv6 good for anonymity

2012-06-20 Thread David Conrad
Bernard, On Jun 19, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: > There are already live trials of LTE networks being rolled out in the UK > where I am currently living using static addressing for some devices. Interest. I guess they'll have to have a special profile for (e.g.) iPhones sinc

Re: [liberationtech] IPv6 good for anonymity

2012-06-19 Thread Tom Ritter
Something I'm not seeing discussed much is that the fundamental shift of "Who has this IP" doesn't change. Right now my ISP gives me a single IPv4 address and I NAT behind it. If someone asks them "Who has IP X at this time?" they can answer. That doesn't change with IPv6. They assign me a /64.

Re: [liberationtech] IPv6 good for anonymity

2012-06-19 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, On 18 Jun 2012, at 21:23, David Conrad wrote: > Bernard, > > On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:05 PM, ei8...@ei8fdb.org wrote: >> I'm not an IPv6 expert, but any technical courses I have done on IPv6 have >> promoted the complete trackability and ful

Re: [liberationtech] IPv6 good for anonymity

2012-06-18 Thread David Conrad
Bernard, On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:05 PM, ei8...@ei8fdb.org wrote: > I'm not an IPv6 expert, but any technical courses I have done on IPv6 have > promoted the complete trackability and full audit-trail possible with IPv6 - > each unique IPv6 host makes a direct connection to the other host, which >

Re: [liberationtech] IPv6 good for anonymity

2012-06-18 Thread ei8fdb
I'm not an IPv6 expert, but any technical courses I have done on IPv6 have promoted the complete trackability and full audit-trail possible with IPv6 - each unique IPv6 host makes a direct connection to the other host, which simplifies security, and routing. There is no need to carry out NAT

Re: [liberationtech] IPv6 good for anonymity

2012-06-17 Thread Walid AL-SAQAF
Dear Seth, Thank you for this tremendously helpful summary of the the situation & potentials associated with IPv6. Your 'blog post' is enlightening, worrying, but also giving hope at the same time. One could conclude is that -like any technology- it is the service providers and users who would de

Re: [liberationtech] IPv6 good for anonymity

2012-06-17 Thread Seth David Schoen
Walid AL-SAQAF writes: > Are we supposed to be more concerned or glad that we are slowly moving to > IPv6 ? I think the effect of IPv6 on privacy is complicated; it depends on how addresses are allocated. It depends on what ISPs do and on what users do. There's one debate about whether people

[liberationtech] IPv6 good for anonymity

2012-06-17 Thread Walid AL-SAQAF
Hi all, You may have read about the recent outcry by FBI and DEA warning that IPv6 could shield criminals from police as i makes tracing electronic addresses 'more difficult'. See: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57453738-83/fbi-dea-warn-ipv6-could-shield-criminals-from-police/ If this is true