On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Cynthia Wong wrote:
>
> Why are RU and CN (most glaringly) absent from the first chart
> enumerating the number (and type) of requests by country? It's hard to
> believe those countries' security services have no interest in
> (non-Skype) Microsoft data. Is MS de
Eugen,
Of course you're right, and I've made that specific argument about
closed-source crypto many times before. But it's still interesting since
we're trying to glean as much information as possible from that report
here, which is a first for Skype.
NK
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Eugen
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:08:42PM -0400, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> Regarding SSL, hasn't Skype claimed in the past that the conversations are
> encrypted client-to-client, as in, even from Microsoft or Skype itself?
Why is it relevant what they claimed? You can't check it, so why
spend any time on
ights Watch
>
>
>
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> I wrote to them and asked these questions, as well as a
ationtech] Microsoft Releases 2012 Law Enforcement Requests
Report
On 03/21/2013 10:37 AM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
> Joseph Lorenzo Hall:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu Mar 21 12:27:47 2013, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>>> >> Joseph Lorenzo Hall:
>>>
> I wrote to them and asked these questions, as well as a few others.
>
> What other questions should we pose to them, I wonder?
Why are RU and CN (most glaringly) absent from the first chart enumerating
the number (and type) of requests by country? It's hard to believe those
countries' security
On 3/21/13 5:27 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
> I don't agree with that reading of the report. There is likely a lot of
> word-smithing here - for example, Does Skype include SkypeIn and
> SkypeOut or just Peer to Peer video, text and storage of (other)
> meta-data? Does CALEA happen on the Skype side
On 03/21/2013 10:37 AM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
> Joseph Lorenzo Hall:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu Mar 21 12:27:47 2013, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>>> >> Joseph Lorenzo Hall:
>>> Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for
>>> content were fulfilled for Skype and the as
Joseph Lorenzo Hall:
>
>
> On Thu Mar 21 12:27:47 2013, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
>> Joseph Lorenzo Hall:
>>> Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for
>>> content were fulfilled for Skype and the associated FAQ [1] says CALEA
>>> (the US law that mandates intercept capa
On Thu Mar 21 12:27:47 2013, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
> Joseph Lorenzo Hall:
>> Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for
>> content were fulfilled for Skype and the associated FAQ [1] says CALEA
>> (the US law that mandates intercept capability) does not apply to Skype
Joseph Lorenzo Hall:
> Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for
> content were fulfilled for Skype and the associated FAQ [1] says CALEA
> (the US law that mandates intercept capability) does not apply to Skype.
> That seems particularly encouraging to me.
>
> The FAQ
Re MSFT transparency, congrats on the result.
In its FAQ. MSFT seems to answer quite unequivocally that Skype still encrypts
Skype-Skype calls on a peer-to-peer basis:
"We provide SSL encryption for Microsoft services and Skype-Skype calls on our
full client (for full function computers) are en
Well done!!
Sent from my iPhone
On 21 Mar 2013, at 14:10, "Nadim Kobeissi"
mailto:na...@nadim.cc>> wrote:
We did it! Our Skype Open Letter worked!!!
*Pats self on back*
NK
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:04 AM, James Losey
mailto:lo...@newamerica.net>> wrote:
>From the blog post:
"As noted in
Two things seem particularly interesting: apparently zero requests for
content were fulfilled for Skype and the associated FAQ [1] says CALEA
(the US law that mandates intercept capability) does not apply to Skype.
That seems particularly encouraging to me.
The FAQ is also interesting in that the
We did it! Our Skype Open Letter worked!!!
*Pats self on back*
NK
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:04 AM, James Losey wrote:
> From the blog post:
>
> "As noted in the data table (available in the PDF below) in 2012,
> Microsoft and Skype received a total of 75,378 law enforcement requests.
> Thos
>From the blog post:
"As noted in the data table (available in the PDF below) in 2012, Microsoft
and Skype received a total of 75,378 law enforcement requests. Those
requests potentially impacted 137,424 accounts. While it is not possible to
directly compare the number of requests to the number of
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