Hi Cedric,
On 29 January 2013 11:15, Cedric Bosdonnat cbosdon...@suse.com wrote:
Hi all,
I was looking for the pictures to show when I have no template
thumbnail. Do you have a link to the ones you were mentioning in our
last chat? Were you mentioning the icons like this one?
Hi Björn, Tor,
On 24 January 2013 10:27, Tor Lillqvist t...@iki.fi wrote:
with LibreOffice on Windows and OSX? That would make them available for use
in
default templates etc.
Personally, I'd love to see it in LibreOffice, especially because it
is one of the very few opensource fonts that
Hi Tor,
On 24 January 2013 10:27, Tor Lillqvist t...@iki.fi wrote:
If the Ubuntu typeface is so unique as they say (i.e. instantly
recognisable) (or even worse, subconsciously recognised), wouldn't
using it in templates then be an endorsement of Ubuntu? Isn't
LibreOffice supposed to be
Hi Michel, Kendy,
* sorry this comes so late... *
tldr: The background image UI should really go if it won't work.
On 18 January 2013 10:03, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote:
May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ?
- why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ?
Hm
Hi Tor,
On 24 January 2013 10:27, Tor Lillqvist t...@iki.fi wrote:
If the Ubuntu typeface is so unique as they say (i.e. instantly
recognisable) (or even worse, subconsciously recognised), wouldn't
using it in templates then be an endorsement of Ubuntu? Isn't
LibreOffice supposed to be
Sent to Samuel only.
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Hi Samuel,
while in general, I like
Hi Michel, Kendy,
* sorry this comes so late... *
tldr: The background image UI should really go if it won't work.
On 18 January 2013 10:03, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote:
May i make some suggestions on the pref panel ?
- why not keep the own image to select an image in local hd ?
Hm
Hi Fitoschido,
On 24 January 2013 17:50, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos fitosch...@gmail.com wrote:
No, I don’t agree on removing the feature from 4.0. We should improve
its rough edges instead of going the easy way.
You realise the 4.0.0 RC3 aka the 4.0.0 final release is going to be
tagged
Hi Adolfo,
But still, it’s too late to remove things. Too much hype this feature
has created on blogs already... And people is still yelling that “we
do not care about UI” or something like that...
Note that I only spoke about the user-defined background images
feature. Not about the Personas
Hi Michael, Regina,
On 14 January 2013 12:17, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com wrote:
I'll get to fixing this for 4.0 - so I wouldn't worry :-)
Sound good. Thanks for the information willingness to patch!
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Hi again...
In the interest of accuracy, I was overstating things, re:
There is
an especially visible regression which is that radial gradients do not
work at all any more.
There are more templates that use radial gradients, but not all are
broken. (No idea what this brokenness depends upon)
Hi all,
so, some of you know, I have soem reservations about this feature...
be that as it may, I have a small number of comments still:
* there are some spelling/grammar errors:
** the button for selecting the background image has the word Backround on it
** the window for Select a persona has
Hi again,
minor correction to my own post only
LibO window with my (admittedly somewhat slow (1000 Mb/s)) connection
Make that 1 MBit/s...
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Hi Mariano,
I wanted to see if I could make mock ups and functions, with VCL.
To make mockups, there is now _partial_ support for Glade's .ui files. See here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/WidgetLayout
As a non-developer, I can't really tell you how to hook it up to code,
Hi Kendy,
On 14 December 2012 17:21, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote:
So far this is still not finished, and I am fighting to have some time
to finish that for Beta 2, and for late feature approval ;-) - so it
still may happen that I'll need to just disable that code in 4.0, even
though
Hi Rushi,
On 14 December 2012 12:29, Rushi Shukla rushbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry I'm not clear about how to find the checkout of the libreoffice
version I am trying to build .
Since you cloned into a folder called libo, you should try looking
for that, I guess. Does that help?
Astron.
Hi Andreas,
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Andreas Mantke ma...@gmx.de wrote:
the link for further extensions in extension manager of LibreOffice
points currently to http://extensions.libreoffice.org. This page
contains some explanation about the use of the extension-site but no
Hi Caolan,
So, re the contents of the icons.tar file, they look fine to me. I'm
minded to add them in unless someone has some argument against that ?
+1 from me, they look good.
(You could always add more detail, but that's not necessary right now.)
Astron.
Hi Nicholas,
I am taking the liberty to add the design list into CC here...
Astron.
On 27 August 2012 16:58, Nicholas Shanks nicksha...@nickshanks.com wrote:
Since I am unable to compile LO, I figured I would work on the artwork a bit.
I noticed that the Windows .ico files included a 256px
Hello Kendy,
Terribly sorry for missing your mail :-( Can you please describe me the
problem more exactly? I can see the images, when I go eg. to
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/tango/lc10713.png
and click (plain) after the blob:
Hello Jakub,
glad you wrote back. :)
On 6 August 2012 14:31, Jakub Steiner jim...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Stefan,
sorry I've let a response slip through. Wouldn't the fact that
gnome-icon-theme is LGPL3 be enough to allow incorporating the bits you need
into the libre office tree?
So, regarding
Hi there,
as an aside: how does LibreOffice fare on the new MBP's high-DPI
display? Does anyone know?
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Hello there,
It'd be great if someone could cherry-pick the following two commits into 3.6:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=151400ef49a2a351c236753e7e72781412659126
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=8b8e611e9e17d55c49209f02f70c4a0acd2e0448
(The
Hi there,
a very simple fix: when I added the title information (File -
Properties) to the Vintage masterpage, I accidentally typed VIntage,
this is now corrected. (Although the name is apparently localised in
the template manager, so maybe this is almost inconsequential, as most
people don't
Hi ape, Kendy, (Mirek,)
CC'ing Mirek, since he proposed the look...
His eyes involuntarily seek the boundaries between objects: a page, the
working area or a ruler.
If the objects are:
a) a very bright or dark;
b) have almost the same color and have no boundary lines;
c) have too
Hi all,
I enabled CTL/Asian support some time ago and it doesn't bother me
performance-wise. However, the separate font entries in the Paragraph
Style dialogue do bother me quite a bit. I also don't really see the
use for them because (at least in the case of the CTL default) they
lump very
Hi Kendy,
- the menu to open the dialog is currently the only submenu of Format -
Conditional Formatting; looks to me as Conditional Formatting...
should be flattened for 3.6 (and given to submenu in 3.7 again) - but
that is probably Astron's call. Astron?
Markus said, he is still going
Hi,
I won't try to judge the code, but I approve the visuals. :) (Some
further modifciation might still be useful to get rid of the white
triangles at the left and the right.)
Overall I like it very much though, thanks, Kendy.
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Since I have some trouble to add anything to Bugzilla right now...
Hi Tomasz, Rainer,
the dotted outline was used in the default theme of older versions of
Windows (I think even the XP default theme used it, but can't say
now). In Vista/7, it was replaced by the blue glow on the icons.
We now
Hi Jean-Baptiste, Riccardo
On Tue, 2012-06-05 at 12:06 +0200, Riccardo Magliocchetti wrote:
It looks way cleaner, also what do you think about to align all the text
above buttons to left instead of center ?
Hm, don't think that would look very good, to be honest. If the
dialogue were as slim
.
On 4 June 2012 16:32, Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi,
Since I noticed, the beta is supposed to be tagged today or tomorrow
already and we in the Design team had talked about our new About thing
a little...
and I also don't seem to have anything to do... I made
Hi Yoandy,
I just posted a patch on this list. Unless there are any obvious
problems with it, I think I am not going to work any more this...
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Hello Andreas, Hylke, Jakub, Lapo!
We from LibreOffice are very much interested in getting some of your
contributions to the Gnome icon theme into LibreOffice. This will help
us to refresh our somewhat ageing Tango theme.
However, we use a different license for our contributions than Gnome
does.
Hello again,
so, one thing is always sure, when Regina writes here: lots of the
misunderstandings I have about the inner workings of the product are
resolved. Thanks!
But still...
As Regina has already pointed out: *page* preview print preview. Page
preview doesn't imply printing. Eg;
Hi Kendy,
Can you please create a screenshot [with a look here arrow / point /
line / circle / ...] for me to see what exactly do you mean? I am sure
it is fixable, whatever it is :-)
Not a problem, see the attached file (it's magnified, so you won't be
able to measure exactly 23/19px
Hi,
in the path icon-themes/[theme]/sfx2/res/, there are a lot of
interesting file type icons, like old StarOffice document icons,
actual Word and Excel 97/2000 document icons etc. Since the icons we
need for the file picker all appear to be stored in
icon-themes/[theme]/res (without sfx2 in
Hello Kendy, Stephan,
thanks for your help and pushing this (and the original patch).
The approach looks rather sane to me (and apparently to Kendy also, who
already pushed). In general, the qadevOOo based tests are rather a mess,
and nobody loves them. However, they proved useful in
→ reply to list, too
Hi Kohei,
I noticed that we actually allow saving and loading of document in print
preview mode. But to me that feels very odd.
What sticks out as most odd to me is that our print preview is so
incredibly cluttered (menu bar + 2 toolbars), whereas e.g. in Firefox
it is
Hi all,
thanks for the helpful comments. So, checking with zip files seems a
good way to go about this...
@Eike: It seems the builtin file picker only shows 16x16 icons (unless
there is some incredibly well hidden option to switch to something
other than list view), so it at least can't be the
Hello Kendy, Stephan,
first: Stephan, I'm very sorry for breaking your tinderbox(es) for
days and not noticing it. (I just assumed my 2-byte change of a commit
was innocent enough. I'll do make check in the future as you advised.)
With some dumbluck and [1], I've managed to get it down to 1
Hi Rob,
But can I solve this or should this be asked to the usability-mailinglist?
And what is the emailaddress of that mailinglist?
The Address is libreoffice-ux-advise at freedektop org. I've CC'd that list.
I have created a patch that corrects the name of the default locale to the
Hi Rob,
But can I solve this or should this be asked to the usability-mailinglist?
And what is the emailaddress of that mailinglist?
The Address is libreoffice-ux-advise at freedektop org. I've CC'd that list.
I have created a patch that corrects the name of the default locale to the
Hi Norbert,
thanks... here's an updated version.
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Hi all,
Here, I would like to propose two things:
* make Insert mode harder to trigger, for instance, by having to use
Shift+Ins (instead of just Ins)
* remove the inidactor wholesale
That is actually an interesting idea :-) The cursor changes to a block
one when the overwrite mode is
Hi all,
this trivial patch sets the default number of sheets in a new Calc
file down to one (as discussed on ux-advise).
I am kind of unsure if the modification in defaultsoptions.cxx is
necessary since it does not seem to do anything on its own...
Otherwise it works...
Shall I push?
Astron.
Hi there,
I've always wondered why LibreOffice (and before it Ooo) would make
the selected tab header bold, because no OS I know does that natively.
While there is an option with which backends could turn this behaviour
off, if there's no need for that we probably should remove it, I
guess.
Hi again,
thanks for the hint ... forgot the attachment.
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Hi Matteo,
it's been some time, I know – but I had this among my drafts... I hope
you'll forgive.
I just pushed my rework of ValueSet key navigation to master. Main
differences from the old one are:
* No more vertical wrap-around
* Last item can be easily displayed also when on a shorter
Hi there,
I've always wondered why LibreOffice (and before it Ooo) would make
the selected tab header bold, because no OS I know does that natively.
While there is an option with which backends could turn this behaviour
off, if there's no need for that we probably should remove it, I
guess.
Hi again,
thanks for the hint ... forgot the attachment.
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Hi Kendy,
can you have a look at why it seems slightly off-centre? Maybe the
ruler widgets are wider than the rulers themselves seem. Thus, the
right side gets the margin you set and the left side gets set margin +
dead part of the ruler. Is that fixable somehow?
Astron.
Hello all,
I've updated the proposal with data bars/color scales in mind...
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Conditional_Formatting
I've tried to describe it in the wiki... if there are questions, don't
hesitate to ask.
Astron.
Hi Kendy, Mirek,
great idea and a great list of things you've done!
The commits that introduced that are the following:
Lighter border window (no 3d effect):
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=51fdf273e9893d3d05c99a09e1c2e5835a78e891
Zoom slider:
Only sent this to Kohei... sending to list, too, now.
On 12 May 2012 12:09, Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi all,
On 11 May 2012 17:50, Kohei Yoshida kohei.yosh...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com wrote:
i wonder
Hello Markus,
Old planning has been moved a bit. Color scales and maybe data bars
will make it into 3.6. Is there a good way to integrate it into the
conditional formatting dialog?
I am working on it.
Meanwhile, there's an implementation detail that I would find useful to know:
how are data
Hi all,
at the Hackfest (almost a month ago now, shame on me), I noticed how
the corners of the cells were slightly round... although they should
be square. This isn't a new effect, it's just that Markus's work
highlights it more.
Markus suggested that you (Thorsten) might be good person to speak
Hi Korrawit,
Talking about FindBar, shall this be discussed together?:
when the cursor is in the FindBar, the FindBar trash almost all
keyboard shoutcuts.
I think that makes sense. It's sort of a mode...
This means you can't use the keyboard shortcuts, except, for example,
Ctrl+A (Select
Hello Gabor, Michael,
On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 04:56 +0200, Gábor Stefanik wrote:
This enables overriding icons found in an images.zip file with ones in
a directory named images next to the zip file.
Sounds great! Thank you.
Looks lovely, as/when there are dev-builds we should poke the
Hi Korrawit, all,
Or could anyone, including you :-), tell us more detailed story about
supporting themes?
AFAIK, the Classic and Industrial themes were deliberately removed
from the theme list.
There's a number of commits regarding Industrial:
Hi Markus,
As already discussed in Hamburg I'm happy with the current proposal
but I have one point that I only noticed today. Would it be possible
to add a concept for data bars and color scales?
Possible, certainly. I think, in the combo box Cell value is we'd
need a third choice like
Hi Andrew,
what are these data bars and color scales you speak of? could you like to the
concept for them if you have one?
take a look here:
http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/microsoft-excel-2010-data-bar/
and here:
Hi Gabor, Michael,
No doubt Astron will be glad to see that cookie image die ;-)
No doubt, I am. Thank you, Gabor!
On the 'cleanup themes to help artists' front, bug:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48873
could use being split into smaller pieces,
Hi Pierre,
1. For the record: the ability to create a new style is one of the items
of the list of styles.
Yes, that's the intention.
2. I understand that we will defer the option of sorting conditions.
However I disagree with the proposition the Add button Appended to the last
Hi all,
here's a trivial patch to exchange the flipping icons for images in
the Human/Oxygen themes – now they should be correct.
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Hi Tim,
Do you want me to replace this by a sub menu or add the new despite the
original one?
Right, so, currently we have the menu entry Zoom..., which opens a
dialogue (and that is the main problem, because that means at least
three clicks and moving your mouse a lot).
See the mockup
Hi all,
about a week ago, Michael (M.) noticed on ux-advise that some icons in
LibreOffice's Tango theme had been replaced. Well, I replaced those
and didn't do the sensible thing and discuss these changes first...
I'd like to make up for that lack of discussion. Thus, I've created a
wiki page
Hi Olivier, all,
I believe what you see are the effects of pair kerning. (Kerning
means to move glyphs closer together/wider apart to make them _seem_
equally far apart as every other letter in that line. The traditional
example is VA, which without kerning would look more like V A.)
I any case,
Hi Michael,
Did we have a new formula icon in master ? I could have sworn tango had
a nicer, simpler icon (or did something change) ?
It's new (well, it's been there for at least two months). And it's my
work. If you don't like it, sorry.
The old icon was a black Industrial icon that I
Hi again,
sorry for two mails on this topic... Anyway, the old icon were those two:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/industrial/sw/imglst/lc20556.png
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes/industrial/sw/imglst/sc20556.png
Astron.
Hi Winfried,
I just pushed this, with a small change, namely, I made the line color
blue by default (same as in MS Office, again).
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Hi Jesso,
On 20 March 2012 06:55, Jesso Murugan developer.je...@gmail.com wrote:
Libreoffice built successfully but failed on
make dev-install as the following files were
missing. I made a git pull this morning.
If you do ./g pull, your dictionaries repo should get updated, too.
That might
Hi Matteo,
Would you mind confirming them (yes/no will suffice)?
Yes. I believe that's all as we discussed. I hope all of this makes
sense, if not, we'll see later on. :)
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Hi Winfried,
Is this the initial setting you wanted? AFAICS it hasn't been pushed yet, nor
rejected :)
Sorry for the lack of feedback. Yes, those should be the right
colours. If I there's no one to complain, I'll just push this later
today as it seems reasonably simple.
Astron.
Hi Markus,
I don't see that much use in the Conditional Format Manager. Excel
uses a totally different concept and treats each conditional format
entry as one entry in the manager while we would a set of conditional
formats treat as one entry.
Maybe I'm ignorant of something else here. Is
Hi Matteo,
Well, in this case my goal is to let the user see the content of not-full
rows without explicitly looking for it, and to move rapidly from an item to
another without too much corrections.
I see.
Good catch. Also speaking from a Western perspective, I find it somewhat
confusing
Hi,
thanks for this. Pushed.
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Hi Winfried, Michael, Ivan, all,
I did some thinking (some, not a lot) on this matter.
It seems that the default colour for font and line colour buttons is
black and for background buttons (highlight excepted) is transparent.
That does not look usefull to me, is these are bound to be the
Hi Bhaavan,
I am adding the dev list (libreoffice@lists.freedesktop.org) here...
Astron.
On 9 March 2012 12:27, Bhaavan Merchant bhaavanmerch...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
I am Bhaavan Merchant, and am a 3rd year undergrad student. I have been a
part of this mailing list for sometime and
Hi Winfried,
On 7 March 2012 07:54, Winfried Donkers w.donk...@dci-electronics.nl wrote:
Astron wrote (06-03-2012 17:44)
That is expected behaviour to me. The startup background colur is
transparent (hence the gray bitmap in the button).
To the uninitiated, this behaviour might seem very
?)
Regards,
Astron.
From ef47ccad183584d0d2da4d84dfed8d5af8bcaa0e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Stefan Knorr (astron) heinzless...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 22:02:23 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Fix fdo#38207 and also hide another option in Writer/Web
---
sw/source/ui/config/optpage.cxx | 16
Hi Cor,
What specifically doesn't work for you? For me it's about okay ~today.
(I remember August promised you a better solution for later, though.)
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Hi Winfried, Ivan,
1. Open a new Writer doc
2. Type smth
3. Press the Background Color button
- nothing happens (?)
That is expected behaviour to me. The startup background colur is
transparent (hence the gray bitmap in the button).
To the uninitiated, this behaviour might seem very
(I answered that directly. Just so you know...)
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Hi Matteo,
so, took me a while to find the courage to read that :) But good
observations these are.
Anyway, ...
Is this behavior the expected/commonly accepted one?
I would like to propose:
* left/right motion should not wrap around from first to last (or last
to first) item. Moving
Hi all,
first: Dézsi, it's great that you care about our UI!
Michael wrote...
Copying the text to the clipboard is a real minority use-case and
doesn't deserve a prominent button in every dialog IMHO.
As one of the UX-advise guys, I have to agree with that. Gnome solve
the same problem
Hey,
Can you please review the following one-liner for inclusion in the 3.5 branch?
(I don't know if it's too late for 3.5.1 already, but it's very
simple, so if there are enough people to review this, then having it
in 3.5.1 would certainly be cool.)
Hi Christoph, Ivan,
Hmm, is there any possible alternative?
Yes, you could easily use the verbs Adapt [Objects] and Keep
[Ratio] or similar. Take a look at: [1]. Overall, I'd love if we
could do any new UI we have in a more Gnome-y way (I am a declared
Gnome fanboy, sorry). Labelling buttons
Hi Tom,
On 25 February 2012 18:28, Tom Thorogood t...@tomthorogood.com wrote:
This is my first submission; please let me know if I've done something
incorrectly!
Welcome to LibreOffice development!
Well, there are two things that would be good:
#1 It'd really help if you could use git
[Sending this to the list now, too.]
Hi Philipp,
saw this as yet unpushed, so pushed it now! Thanks for your contributions,
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Hi Michael, Greggory,
I had a look here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOo31_Usage_Feedback_Data.ods
Apparently, it's the 33rd-most-used function in Calc (if this is
indeed the .uno:ToggleMergeCells function, not the .uno:MergeCells
function) and our context menu there has only
Hi Michael, Greggory,
I had a look here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:OOo31_Usage_Feedback_Data.ods
Apparently, it's the 33rd-most-used function in Calc (if this is
indeed the .uno:ToggleMergeCells function, not the .uno:MergeCells
function) and our context menu there has only
Hi all,
so, I guess using sound in the right places is not a bad idea. Of
course, having 60 random beeps across the codebase means we're mostly
silent already (well, my experience of workingin LibO backs this up) –
in other words: removing the remaining beeps won't hurt so much any
more. What I'd
Hi,
pushed this with minor modifications. Thanks a lot for your work, Philipp!
I hope you weren't already on this, Lionel... if yes, sorry.
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Hi Petr,
I checked other applications, e.g. pidgin, xchat, gimp, kmail,
evolution, firefox. They all have [Cancel] button in the about dialog.
It is in the bottom right corner, like in the other dialogs. It is
delimited from the text by a line. So, I did the same, see the attached
Hi Albert,
At least I get two annoying bugs:
1) The cursor moves In front of the text when the Prefix is reverted.
2) When trying to delete text in the edit box, the last character
sticks (can't be deleted).
Does someone have a clue whats going on?
Hm, no (not a coder I am). But can you
Hi Albert,
At least I get two annoying bugs:
1) The cursor moves In front of the text when the Prefix is reverted.
2) When trying to delete text in the edit box, the last character
sticks (can't be deleted).
Does someone have a clue whats going on?
Hm, no (not a coder I am). But can you
Hi Mirek, Michael,
Anyhow - thanks for getting involved ! I look forward to what you come
up with.
Hehe. Take a look at the amazing mock-up and ideas that Mirek has been
working on for a while now:
http://clickortap.wordpress.com/frivl/
(No, none of this is perfectly specced out yet,
Hi,
On 6 February 2012 20:49, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
Fine (for me) :-)
Guess so, then.
Astron.
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Hi,
though well-intentioned, I actually forgot to add the design and
ux-advise lists to CC. Doing that now... Astron.
On 2 February 2012 19:22, Stefan Knorr (Astron)
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Hi Barış, Noel,
First of all: Barış, wonderful that you took this up!
Secondly: I am adding
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