Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Best e-reader for free software

I use a Bebook running OpenInkpot. All free except the boot loader. No wireless, but SD slot and USB.

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Best e-reader for free software

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Anyone know of a really simple e-reader with no network no nothing? I think I could make do with it if only were capable of file transfer (like any other USB mass storage thing-y) and viewing the most common formats. - -- Alexander

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > So we can learn any programming language without risk in time to see > it becoming more (close, proprietary, restricted ...) than another > one? Let's be a bit more specific here. There are several potential sources of nonfreedom in a language:

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 72, Issue 8

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:54:55 -0800 Johnny Merrill wrote: > Are you dependent on English internally? > > You are a non free programming language. Uhm... cool story? I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here.

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > I agree that it would be good to have a list of languages categorized > by freedom status and typical use cases for each language. > The list would not be comprehensive, but it might still be a good > thing to have as a quick reference. Something

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Fabio: I consider the platform part of the toolchain. However, you *do* raise a valid point that I omitted - whether the language can run on free OSes. While it is *exceedingly* rare these days, another potential source of nonfreedom in a

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

"..Perl, the first postmodern computer language.. greatness is measured by how much freedom you give to others, not by how much you can coerce others to do what you want..": http://wall.org/~larry/pm.html On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 3:04 PM, aurelien wrote: > Alexander Berntsen

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

aurelien writes: > Fabio Pesari writes: > >> On 02/03/2016 09:04 PM, aurelien wrote: >>> Sorry, I was thinking that programming language are under license like >>> software. >>> >>> So we can learn any programming language without risk in time to see it

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

Koz Ross writes: >> I agree that it would be good to have a list of languages categorized >> by freedom status and typical use cases for each language. >> The list would not be comprehensive, but it might still be a good >> thing to have as a quick reference. > >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 72, Issue 8

risk in time to see it > becoming more (close, proprietary, restricted ...) than another one? > > -- > Aur?lien DESBRI?RES > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 818 bytes

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

On 02/03/2016 09:04 PM, aurelien wrote: > Sorry, I was thinking that programming language are under license like > software. > > So we can learn any programming language without risk in time to see it > becoming more (close, proprietary, restricted ...) than another one? Well, for starters I

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

Fabio Pesari writes: > On 02/03/2016 09:04 PM, aurelien wrote: >> Sorry, I was thinking that programming language are under license like >> software. >> >> So we can learn any programming language without risk in time to see it >> becoming more (close, proprietary, restricted

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

aurelien writes: > aurelien writes: > >> Fabio Pesari writes: >> >>> On 02/03/2016 09:04 PM, aurelien wrote: Sorry, I was thinking that programming language are under license like software. So we can learn any

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

On 03/02/16 03:04 PM, aurelien wrote: > Alexander Berntsen writes: > >> On 03/02/16 19:59, aurelien wrote: >>> Is there a list of free as in freedom programming language? >> Programming languages are not software, so you'll have to be a bit >> more specific as to what

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

> Sorry, I was thinking that programming language are under license like software. Well, implementations of languages are licensed. For instance GCC is a free compiler for C, but there can also be prorietary compilers for C. C itself is neither free nor nonfree. -Alan Beadle

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

I agree that it would be good to have a list of languages categorized by freedom status and typical use cases for each language. The list would not be comprehensive, but it might still be a good thing to have as a quick reference. Who has ideas about the right way to start building and hosting

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Best e-reader for free software

On February 3, 2016 3:23:34 PM CET, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: >Thanks for this, I'm interested in such a reader as well. >However, when I go to what seems to be the Bebook's official website at > >http://mybebook.com/, all I get is a blank page. Am I trying the wrong >URL or

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Best e-reader for free software

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/02/16 14:19, John Sullivan wrote: > I use a Bebook running OpenInkpot. All free except the boot > loader. No wireless, but SD slot and USB. Thanks for the suggestion. Does it have backlight? And if it does, can it be turned off? - --

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Best e-reader for free software

On February 3, 2016 3:20:18 PM CET, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA512 > >On 03/02/16 14:19, John Sullivan wrote: >> I use a Bebook running OpenInkpot. All free except the boot >> loader. No wireless, but SD slot and USB. >Thanks for

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Best e-reader for free software

Thanks for this, I'm interested in such a reader as well. However, when I go to what seems to be the Bebook's official website at http://mybebook.com/, all I get is a blank page. Am I trying the wrong URL or is it something with my browser? On 03/02/16 21:19, John Sullivan wrote: I use a

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > Thanks for chiming in, this is pretty good. What are your opinions > about having a wiki kind of like this, perhaps linking to the FSD > pages for tools corresponding with languages? Does that seem > productive? > > -Alan Beadle Well, in all

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

> Something like an awesome-languages list? What I mean by this is > something similar to https://notabug.org/koz.ross/awesome-c or > https://notabug.org/koz.ross/awesome-gamedev. Disclaimer: I maintain > both. Thanks for chiming in, this is pretty good. What are your opinions about having a wiki

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

Le mer. 3 févr. 2016 à 20:07, carl hansen a écrit : On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:59 AM, aurelien wrote: Is there a list of free as in freedom programming language? http://www.gnu.org/manual/manual.html#Software start of a list. Algol? You

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:59 AM, aurelien wrote: > > Is there a list of free as in freedom programming language? > > http://www.gnu.org/manual/manual.html#Software start of a list. Algol? You got it.

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

Sadly, people are keen to confuse "programming language" with "programming language implementation", because so many languages have only one implementation (C being a notable counterexample). Only the latter is software. On 4 February 2016 at 09:12, aurelien wrote: > Koz

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 71, Issue 6

On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 15:18:47 -0600, Charley Quinton wrote: > Are you reading my mind, my document here -> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MVB1RDkeS4Gh0eRtYhYPXFDK8I2ejcRyXi6ujtJPnH4/ > or simply listening to common sense, Fabio? I agree whole-heartedly. See my > user page at LibrePlanet.

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

> Now augment that GNU list with all relevant free software programming language implementations: > https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Category/Programming-language That category in the wiki isn't supposed to be for implementations of languages, it's supposed to be for sorting everything by what

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

I guess I'm not sure what to make of it in that case. All I know is that if you edit 0AD and look at the "categories" tab and click the "?" near the "Programming Language" section, it says that it is meant to show what language the program was written in. The category seems to be actively used in

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

It does purposefully contain programming language implementations though. For instance, the A+ language entry on that page doesn't even contain information on what language it's implemented in, which suggests that it was tagged with the "Software-development:programming-language" solely to

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 72, Issue 3

On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 06:59:00 -0800, Johnny Merrill wrote: > Now, we, the open source community We don't identify with the "open source" community here: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html You can help us by saying "free software" or "free/libre software",

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Teaching programming (was: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 71, Issue 6)

(sorry for the double send Mike, forgot to address to the mailing list the first time) On 2016-02-03 10:52, Mike Gerwitz wrote: Please don't link to Google Docs, as it requires that users run proprietary JavaScript, and does not work with JavaScript disabled. See:

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 72, Issue 3

Words themselves, Are little more than dry shells, It is the meaning of a word, Which is its shell broken open to see the juice within, What is sweet to some, To others is bitter, And this a sole division, Which is a source for conflict. -Aaron E-J However, it is also a source for joy, a source

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/02/16 19:59, aurelien wrote: > Is there a list of free as in freedom programming language? Programming languages are not software, so you'll have to be a bit more specific as to what freedoms you mean. - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Teaching programming

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:24:25 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote: > For the record, this has never been true. I wrote a program a long time ago > that allows you to download Google Docs in the free ODT format; the script > seems to have been lost but the process is still simple: > >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

Alexander Berntsen writes: > On 03/02/16 19:59, aurelien wrote: >> Is there a list of free as in freedom programming language? > Programming languages are not software, so you'll have to be a bit > more specific as to what freedoms you mean. Sorry, I was thinking that