Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Updating the High Priority List

2016-02-11 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/10/2016 08:54 PM, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > > Also if we had a very good 2D/3D CAD libre software but missing a full DWG > support, CAD users still would not use it. > But having a full DWG support is really hard... I think quite impossible: DWG > is closed and Autodesk change it often

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Updating the High Priority List

2016-02-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/02/16 12:04, Fabio Pesari wrote: > On 02/11/2016 11:13 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> As suggested in my earlier email, I feel the list should be reserved for >> things that just about everybody needs to use. > > In general, I would agree, but those specific programs which haven't yet > been

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-11 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 The FSF should be about software, and the staff should strive not express their feelings regarding other things. As you correctly identify, free culture benefits the free software struggle (and vice versa) -- however, being anti-non-free culture

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Mapping the patterns of the GNU GPL Onto the Material World

2016-02-11 Thread Patrick Anderson
> if the product were a power wheelchair, > which has both hardware and software, comes in > a variety of sizes, and has a cushion by a different > vendor which may not be open, how would things work > with what you propose? Think of the extreme limitations of the GNU project when it first began.

[libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-11 Thread Fabio Pesari
I know this is going to be controversial and I understand that the FSF is about software and not culture but in truth, I disagree with the FSF's (and the GNU project's) usage of nonfree cultural licenses (like the CC-BY-ND). I disagree with the idea that things that express a subjective point of

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Updating the High Priority List

2016-02-11 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 11/02/16 11:04, Fabio Pesari wrote: > On 02/10/2016 08:54 PM, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: >> >> Also if we had a very good 2D/3D CAD libre software but missing a full DWG >> support, CAD users still would not use it. >> But having a full DWG support is really hard... I think quite impossible:

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-11 Thread Joshua Gay
On 02/11/2016 07:29 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > People may actively work on something (e.g. a paper or some slides) to > promote a particular point of view (e.g. Free Software) > > Somebody else may take 90% of the slides and just change 10% of them and > start using them to promote a similar

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-11 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/11/2016 03:58 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > The FSF should be about software, and the staff should strive not > express their feelings regarding other things. As you correctly > identify, free culture benefits the free software struggle (and vice > versa) -- however, being anti-non-free

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-11 Thread Erik Moeller
2016-02-11 8:05 GMT-08:00 Joshua Gay : > Out of curiousity, for those that do strongly believe all works should > be freely licensed, do you believe that GNU GPL, is therefore itself a > work that is an injustice to those who recieve it and that it should be > condemned and avoided?

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-11 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/11/2016 05:05 PM, Joshua Gay wrote: > Out of curiousity, for those that do strongly believe all works should > be freely licensed, do you believe that GNU GPL, is therefore itself a > work that is an injustice to those who recieve it and that it should be > condemned and avoided? Trick

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-11 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/02/16 17:05, Joshua Gay wrote: > Out of curiousity, for those that do strongly believe all works > should be freely licensed, do you believe that GNU GPL, is > therefore itself a work that is an injustice to those who recieve > it and that it

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] What do you think about the FSF using/endorsing nonfree cultural works?

2016-02-11 Thread Fabio Pesari
On 02/11/2016 05:25 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: > I don't think the GPL example is a good one as it would be fair use to > create a license very similar to the GPL. If the GPL itself were CC > BY-SA, then the FSF could insist on derivatives *not* carrying the "GNU" > name anyway. Regardless, if someone