Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-28 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
I really think that for the copyleft strategy to furthering software freedom, *volume* of programs under the GPL is not the most important factor, but rather the strategic value of the program. If I license my little script under the GPL, that is good, but if no one would ever have wanted to make

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-28 Thread Dennis Payne
On Mon, 2020-09-28 at 07:33 +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > Did you measure https://sourceforge.net/ ? > > Did you measure Bitbucket, Gitlab, private, FTP sites, non-GNU > Savannah, and GNU Savannah or Launchpad? > > Without proper measurement of statistics, the GPL is not in decline > for me. Because

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-28 Thread Ali Reza Hayati
Software libre is a matter of justice. We care about the movement because we care about the justice for all. It's not the price that brings justice but it's opportunity and freedom. When we talk about copyleft, we're talking about giving all people the same opportunity that we had. Copyleft makes

Re: [LibrePlanet]: New Presentation

2020-09-28 Thread Greg Farough
On Mon, Sep 28 2020, Goo Goo Knox via libreplanet-discuss wrote: > Hi All, Hi, everyone. Please don't click this link. We've removed this user from the list. -g -- Greg Farough // Campaigns Manager Free Software Foundation Join the FSF and help us defend software freedom: https://my.fsf.or

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-28 Thread Jean Louis
* Pen-Yuan Hsing [2020-09-28 05:29]: > > Their wordings for the MIT license is: > > > > The MIT License is short and to the point. It lets people do almost > > anything they want with your project, like making and distributing > > closed source versions. > > > > Their wording is not quite nice,

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-28 Thread quiliro
What a great analysis and discussion. Thank you very much, Pen-Yuan Hsing and all participants! For me, freedom seen as the center of the discussion is a great success for us. Most people think economy is the main topic. But freedom is the mother of economy (without freedom, there could not be eco

[LibrePlanet]: New Presentation

2020-09-28 Thread Goo Goo Knox via libreplanet-discuss
Hi All, I am planning to apply for a session in upcoming LibrePlanet conference, to present a topic on this project. Here is the self-shot version of the presentation, https://fs333.gounlimited.to/tea5ur5c2h2qzxfffn4yv5jg53piwzbdni5tp7o7twot3lgjhc2w5gxv2g5a/v.mp4 Please leave me a feedback. :-

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-28 Thread Jean Louis
* Pen-Yuan Hsing [2020-09-28 05:30]: > > Maybe it is this one: > > https://github.blog/2015-03-09-open-source-license-usage-on-github-com/ > > That could very well be it, thank you for finding it! While there is a > substantial number of copyleft-licensed software shown in that graph, they > are

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-28 Thread Jean Louis
* Pen-Yuan Hsing [2020-09-28 05:48]: > > I cannot see there possible violation of the GPL. > > > > You can use R and make R programs which are proprietary. You can have > > bash shell and have shell scripts which are proprietary. You can have > > proprietary program producing automatically shell