Re: Free Software Logo

2020-10-30 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
Em 29/10/2020 12:59, Jean Louis escreveu: > To clarify my previous post, there are groups like free system > distributions from https://www.gnu.org that would not go after > somebody using their logo or trademarks in any manner, they would > continue doing what they are doing. > > GNU is also

Re: Free Software Logo

2020-10-30 Thread Matt Ivie
On Thu, 2020-10-29 at 18:59 +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > > GNU is also trademark, but GNU never did anything into that direction > as it opposes in general intellectual rights. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html -- "Under the sky, under the heavens there is but one family."

Re: Free Software Logo -> Where does FSF go?

2020-10-30 Thread Matt Ivie
On Fri, 2020-10-30 at 10:14 +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:26:17 -0700 - Aaron Wolf : > > > [...] The FSF is not opposed > > to legal enforcement of trademarks and copyrights (copylefts in > > this > > case). > > Sorry but I am very amazed to hear this statement. > > I

Re: Free Software Logo -> Where does FSF go?

2020-10-30 Thread Yuchen Pei
I thought the point of trademarking the gnu head has more to do with protecting the reputation of the project / movement, than enforcing "IP" or taking away people's freedom. Same reasoning with using CC-BY-ND rather than CC-BY-SA for writings with opinions. On Fri, Oct 30, 2020,

Re: Free Software Logo

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Algot Runeman via libreplanet-discuss [2020-10-29 20:54]: > > On 10/29/20 4:06 AM, mray wrote: > > > > On 29.10.20 00:00, Pedro Lucas Porcellis wrote: > > > > I'm letting you know that there is now a Free Software Logo ready to use > > > > for everybody wanting to have a sign that says "Free

Re: Free Software Logo

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* mray [2020-10-29 11:07]: > After trying to come up with approaches that directly relate to the 4 > freedoms I ultimately had to give in to abstraction. > There just wasn't enough room for that complexity in an iconic > symbol. I think that idea of representing 4 freedoms is great. More ideas

Self-hosting Fediverse, and Etesync

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Ali Reza Hayati [2020-10-29 20:38]: > We can't pay for even small services such as a VPS or a hosting. My > website is currently hosted by a guy in Germany for free because I can't > pay anyone for hosting. You may do it with me, no problems. Riseup is good email address, good choice. You can

Re: youtube-dl DMCA takedown on GitHub is risk for all GNU/Linux distributions

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Ali Reza Hayati [2020-10-29 19:33]: > I agree with you, Jean. > > This is a major concern about software distribution. The reason behind > this is, pardon me, dumb. If we go by this reason, we should take down > the whole internet and even modern technology just because people may > misuse it.

Re: Free Software Logo

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Stephen Paul Weber [2020-10-29 18:49]: > > > https://free-software-logo.codeberg.page/ > > > > Alright. You may consider contributing it to GNU. > > I would be very wary of tying anything this important to a single free > software project or group. To clarify my previous post, there are

youtube-dl DMCA takedown on GitHub is risk for all GNU/Linux distributions

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
Even yesterday I was thinking to write to this list as the youtube-dl DMCA takedown on GitHub is more serious than many would think. youtube-dl is already in many GNU/Linux distributions: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=youtube-dl=names=stable=all Now I notice you have the comment on

Re: Free Software Logo -> Where does FSF go?

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* al3xu5 / dotcommon [2020-10-30 12:20]: > Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:26:17 -0700 - Aaron Wolf : > > > [...] The FSF is not opposed > > to legal enforcement of trademarks and copyrights (copylefts in this > > case). > > Sorry but I am very amazed to hear this statement. > > I believed that the

Re: Free Software Logo

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Aaron Wolf [2020-10-29 19:00]: > > On 2020-10-29 8:40 a.m., Jean Louis wrote: > > > Did you see other logos on GNU website? That is what I meant. And > > there is no such thing as control of "free software logos" in the > > context of trademarks, GNU and free software dedicated groups do not

Re: Free Software Logo -> Where does FSF go?

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* mray [2020-10-30 13:07]: > On 30.10.20 10:14, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > > Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:26:17 -0700 - Aaron Wolf : > > > >> [...] The FSF is not opposed > >> to legal enforcement of trademarks and copyrights (copylefts in this > >> case). > > > > Sorry but I am very amazed to hear

Re: Free Software Logo

2020-10-30 Thread Jean Louis
* Aaron Wolf [2020-10-29 19:26]: > I don't think it has happened that proprietary software ever claimed to > be GNU, but if that happened, the GNU project *would* take legal action > if they couldn't first get voluntary compliance. The FSF is not opposed > to legal enforcement of trademarks and

Re: Free Software Logo -> Where does FSF go?

2020-10-30 Thread mray
On 30.10.20 10:14, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:26:17 -0700 - Aaron Wolf : > >> [...] The FSF is not opposed >> to legal enforcement of trademarks and copyrights (copylefts in this >> case). > > Sorry but I am very amazed to hear this statement. > > I believed that the

Re: Free Software Logo -> Where does FSF go?

2020-10-30 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Thu, 29 Oct 2020 09:26:17 -0700 - Aaron Wolf : > [...] The FSF is not opposed > to legal enforcement of trademarks and copyrights (copylefts in this > case). Sorry but I am very amazed to hear this statement. I believed that the ethical spirit that originated GNU and GPL (copyleft), and that is